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    Hey sparrow, my perception of Miss is that it's a diminutive near condescension, kind of like calling someone Betty instead of Liz or Elizabeth. Ma'am appears to have connotations of respect allocated to biological age, which is kind of strange considering that maturation doesn't always synch with biological age. Whenever I hear Ma'am, somehow the cowboy drawl and hat tipping come to mind, which is too cute.

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    I guess I associate ma'am with someone who is older. I still look young, so no need for ma'am yet! Mademoiselle works lol.
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    Don't Miss or Ma'am me. If you're older, you may Sweetie me. If you're younger or my age, just call out Hello or Excuse me. Miss/Ma'am is so Gone With the Wind. I don't like it.

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    Y'all are cute. I just want to pinch your cheeks...

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    I guess by most standards I'm 'ma'am' now. I don't remember ever being bothered by the term -- intent matters more than content in this particular situation.

    I do get a little bothered when school staff call me by my first name unless it's pretty clear I'm expected to call them by their first name as well.
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    I am glad we do not have that problem in Denmark. But it is going to be weird for me when going to UK
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    I was taught to adress any woman of power or serving you, ie at a resteraunt. to be yes ma'am, no ma'am or thank you and no thank you. But that's my upbringing, didn't realize it was for people over 40.
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    I don't remember ever being called Miss growing up. I don't think Miss is a Southern thing at all. Ma'am is usually a sign of respect for a person older than yourself, unless it's to get a stranger's or a customer's attention--then it's generally ma'am, anyway. I don't think you get called anything if you're a kid, unless it's something like "sweetie."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    I don't remember ever being called Miss growing up. I don't think Miss is a Southern thing at all. Ma'am is usually a sign of respect for a person older than yourself, unless it's to get a stranger's or a customer's attention--then it's generally ma'am, anyway. I don't think you get called anything if you're a kid, unless it's something like "sweetie."
    Ma'am and miss are associated with the South, largely due to the stereotypical perception of the "Southern Gentleman" and in Gone With the Wind's case, a difference in social rank. People began referring to me as "Mr." when I was 16, which was unsettling at first, but I became used to it. As said before, generally terms such as that are used as a sign of respect, though as this respect has traditionally been paid from the young to the middle aged and above, as well as general stuffy adults, it has gradually become associated with advancing age.
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    I like saying ma'am. It breaks the bitch forcefield.

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