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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    The whole point of the thread was that good use of T isn't gonna make you any less of a slave to your emotions. It doesn't matter what function you use, as long as you DO use it wisely.
    I disagree. Harmonious offset of cognitive processes matters.

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    Feeling isn't really too much about emotions at all -- it's about ethics. It's about acting upon what you believe is right or wrong, as opposed to what you have logically concluded to be reasonable or unreasonable.

    So I would say Fs are not necessarily slaves to emotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snuggletron View Post
    Hm, I wouldn't say that T/F can be broken down into concrete/holistic like S/N. It's pretty hard to act without thinking, literally anyway. Thoughts lead to emotions, they don't just jump out of holes in the earth like dwarves.
    The colloquial "thinking" is not the same as the MBTI thinking, though.

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    My emotions can overwhelm me but it is my choice if i choose to detach myself and become the observer.

    I do wonder though just how much conditioning, concepts, prejudices and projection play a part.
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    What about personal decision that don't affect other people's lives too much...merely your own?

    I think anything that concerns my own life through pretty thoroughly. If it's a financial decision I will spend days trying to determine what the best route is. If it's something that concerns school or work I like to talk about it with other people who have been in similar situations... I try to keep emotions out of my decision making as much as possible... However, there are a few things that I have made decisions on because of emotions. If I know something is going to make me an emotional wreck I will take steps to prevent it. If that makes any sense...


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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    I do wonder though just how much conditioning, concepts, prejudices and projection play a part.
    Isn't this what Fx is all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    I disagree. Harmonious offset of cognitive processes matters.
    Well I extended the question to every F, with all their different uses of E/I, N/S and P/J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    Well I extended the question to every F, with all their different uses of E/I, N/S and P/J.
    Pardon me for adding some Tx into the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    T is concrete decision making, while F is holistic decision making.
    Why is F more holistic than T?
    T can detach and observe from many perspectives, not just one.
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    I'm not really sure what you mean by slave.

    Without launching into a comprehensive account of my life story, I'll just say that I've basically been in isolation since adolescence. It facilitated the development of a sort of "prejudice" against Fe. Again, I'm not going to get into every single reason for it, and nor did I know that "prejudice" was what I had as it happened, this is partly how I discovered that I'm an F, and not a T (as I'd thought for a very long time) in retrospect, of course.

    I'd been stuck in NiTi for 7 years. It still has a distinct aftertaste, but I'm more aware of it now, and so am better equipped to deal with it within the correct context.

    "Slave" in the sense of not really understanding that they were, in fact, emotions and so not being able to directly deal with them in any effectual manner. The relationship between my emotions and I is still very much a childish one, and it still takes me longer than it should to recognize that I have any. If you mean slave in the sense that consciously allow them to control most everything I do...no, quite the opposite; I try to consciously weed them OUT.

    Hmmph. Make of this what you will.

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