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    Generally speaking, if a nonprofit organization begins to provide scholarships to specific types of students who wish to study at specific types of colleges - and does not provide scholarships to students or colleges who do not meet the criteria that is consistent with the nonprofit organizations Articles of Incorporation, can this in any way be considered discrimination?

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    Nothing is wrong with discrimination per se. Only certain types of discrimination in general typically are illegal. In general, only those types of discrimination which are against public policy (typically racial, sex, national origin, disability etc.) have legislative and or constitutional protection.

    For example discriminating against people who eat peanut butter sandwiches is fine but discriminating against someone because they are Asian on the other hand would be more likely to be illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamtar View Post
    Nothing is wrong with discrimination per se. Only certain types of discrimination in general typically are illegal. In general, only those types of discrimination which are against public policy (typically racial, sex, national origin, disability etc.) have legislative and or constitutional protection.

    For example discriminating against people who eat peanut butter sandwiches is fine but discriminating against someone because they are Asian on the other hand would be more likely to be illegal.
    Aren't the criteria for discrimination dependent of whether or not the non-profit is accepting Federal funds for thier programs?

    It seems like most of the time, when an organization accepts Federal $$$, there are strings attached, and I'm pretty sure anti-discrimination language is associated with Federal dollars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Generally speaking, if a nonprofit organization begins to provide scholarships to specific types of students who wish to study at specific types of colleges - and does not provide scholarships to students or colleges who do not meet the criteria that is consistent with the nonprofit organizations Articles of Incorporation, can this in any way be considered discrimination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Generally speaking, if a nonprofit organization begins to provide scholarships to specific types of students who wish to study at specific types of colleges - and does not provide scholarships to students or colleges who do not meet the criteria that is consistent with the nonprofit organizations Articles of Incorporation, can this in any way be considered discrimination?

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    I am not a lawyer, so I have to ask:

    Are you looking for specific legal advice? If so, I can't answer, since I'm not yet admitted to the bar. However, if you are curious as to the general issues surrounding this, I do have some info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Aren't the criteria for discrimination dependent of whether or not the non-profit is accepting Federal funds for thier programs?

    It seems like most of the time, when an organization accepts Federal $$$, there are strings attached, and I'm pretty sure anti-discrimination language is associated with Federal dollars...

    Does anyone know the real-deal-fo-schizzle details???
    Federal tax dollars are not involved here whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willfrey View Post
    I think I know where you are going, you don't get preferential treatment because you aren't a minority? I was never hired as a USFS Firefighter because I wasn't female, otherwise I'd of got right in.
    Well, kind of. Although I'm not the minority (or the majority) in this case. I'm the nonprofit who wants to grant scholarships.

    Organization would be providing scholarships for students who will be studying a specific subject at a specific college (chosen by me) to learn a specific trade/profession (which coincides with the nonprofit mission/purpose) in order to graduate, get licensed and enter a specific career field (again, which coincides with the mission of the non-profit).

    Are the people who do not meet all of those specifics (and therefore the organization will not even consider them for scholarships) being discriminated against?
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    I'm not a lawyer or any sort of legal professional, but I do work with financial aid, and I've seen scholarships advertised that are at least as restrictive as this. Stuff like "Students studying engineering who were born in County X of State Y" or "Students studying landscape architecture whose parents/grandparents served in WW2". You can pretty much give your money to who you want to (possible exceptions when it comes to race/gender... but I doubt it).

    Now, if you're trying to make this some sort of contractual thing where the student can't change their mind about their career path later, there are obviously other issues. Like Spamtar said -- being picky about recipient criteria probably isn't discrimination. But certain criteria will make you anathema to the college you're trying to give a scholarship to (I know you aren't doing this, but one example would be a scholarship only for white students -- the college would almost certainly refuse to honor it, or even take the money).

    If you're really concerned, check with a lawyer. Since you're looking to fund a scholarship at a specific university, I'd also suggest contacting the college's financial aid office -- they can probably steer you in the right direction or refer you to the college's legal office. They'll probably try to get you to donate money to the school to fund this scholarship (instead of administering it yourself) and press you to "open it up" if no suitable candidates are found in a given year. But they may have some answers too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    I'm not a lawyer or any sort of legal professional, but I do work with financial aid, and I've seen scholarships advertised that are at least as restrictive as this. Stuff like "Students studying engineering who were born in County X of State Y" or "Students studying landscape architecture whose parents/grandparents served in WW2". You can pretty much give your money to who you want to (possible exceptions when it comes to race/gender... but I doubt it).

    Now, if you're trying to make this some sort of contractual thing where the student can't change their mind about their career path later, there are obviously other issues. Like Spamtar said -- being picky about recipient criteria probably isn't discrimination. But certain criteria will make you anathema to the college you're trying to give a scholarship to (I know you aren't doing this, but one example would be a scholarship only for white students -- the college would almost certainly refuse to honor it, or even take the money).

    If you're really concerned, check with a lawyer. Since you're looking to fund a scholarship at a specific university, I'd also suggest contacting the college's financial aid office -- they can probably steer you in the right direction or refer you to the college's legal office. They'll probably try to get you to donate money to the school to fund this scholarship (instead of administering it yourself) and press you to "open it up" if no suitable candidates are found in a given year. But they may have some answers too.
    Good information there! Thanks. The students could certainly change their mind during the course of their studies, but I will say that (a) it's probably very unlikely that they would in this case (graduate studies), and (b) if they did, the organization would probably have it in writing that they would just simply need to pay the money back if they changed their mind.

    And, yeah, I think contacting the college legal offices is a great idea. Thanks again.
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