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    Default For people between 30-35 - or the getting older without a feeling of belonging thread

    I feel like I dont fit into any one generation, like Im in the limbus between the older generation x and the younger generation y. Eventhough I did the whole grunge theme as a teenager it never did seem like it was my "thing" more that of my older sister's generation. I seem to a degree to have more in common with the younger generation, because of my choice of music, style and so on. When grunge where at its highpoint I started getting interested in techno and raves, stuff like that. So to some degree the whole technologically based culture of the younger generation y seems more interesting to me. Im also of a type that has a natural liking for the new and exciting not in a bling bling manner but more in the sense of subcultural influences.

    It might very well be because my sister is married and Im not, but people her age just dont seem as exciting as younger people and I feel trapped in this whole generation thing.

    One other thing which I think might be more contributed to me being single or more specific my type is this expectation of me being a contributing stable citizen now but really Im not. Maybe Im having a minor 1/3 life crisis.


    Ill end it here but what is your thoughts on this. Do you think Im whining or do I have some points? I know its not very well thought out but its a beginning.

    Edit: I might not have been to exact in what I was trying to get across starting this thread. So here is a post I made a take this in to consideration aswell. http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ml#post1227991
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    it's hard to go from a raver to a normal stable citizen isn't it...i'll join your support group...haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    it's hard to go from a raver to a normal stable citizen isn't it...i'll join your support group...haha
    I was never a raver kid with those horrible pants but my reference in music has been from nu-nrg/hardcore/happy hardcore/psy trance/trance/techno/some dnb to now deephouse/tech house/minimal/techno. I had a period where I thought I was going to be a dj. But it never did go very far, I do some mixes every now and then though.

    The whole culture or the culture behind raves and the mentality there was at raves just fit my personality a lot more than what Ive been influenced with in other periods. The whole peace, love and unity, Im kind of a hippie at heart.

    But then again the whole Jazz club and classical concerts that might be of an older generation aswell just also seem to fit me perfectly. I was classically reared as a kid, I played the violin.

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    i guess i liked the grunge thing. probably the perfect age for it (13-ish). i was into skateboarding and punk before that, and liked guitars... so.. yeah. i didnt care for raves back then. i was the dumbass getting high, lounging on some couch, staring into the tv screens hanging about, playing some spliced up version of willy wonka and gay porn. one rave i was at got raided by dozens of skinheads. that wasn't fun.

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    Eeeewwwwww.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    i guess i liked the grunge thing. probably the perfect age for it (13-ish). i was into skateboarding and punk before that, and liked guitars... so.. yeah. i didnt care for raves back then. i was the dumbass getting high, lounging on some couch, staring into the tv screens hanging about, playing some spliced up version of willy wonka and gay porn. one rave i was at got raided by dozens of skinheads. that wasn't fun.
    So do you feel you are trapped between two generations? Have you had difficulty with finding a place you belong? What about expectations?

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    I was around when the whole grunge and rave scenes emerged in NI and I've got to say that the rave scene was massive here, in part because it was a non-sectarian youth culture/identity, the adult population didnt see it was too radical or threatening, it was fuelled by drugs but not any more than alternative cultures before or since but drugs in NI are linked to crime families and paramilitaries and so a black market would have popularised it too. Grunge was around as kind of the outgroup, lots of people where into grunge music but it wasnt a scene or style, there was punk scene which was stronger and lingered longer maybe. The goth scene in NI was bigger and lasted a lot longer than any place else, its still going strong while in other places, for instance Dublin, its been reabsorbed into a metal scene.

    To me I didnt really relate to any of those scenes, I kind of thought they where superficial, instead I related to an earlier world, the hegemonic struggle between east and west was only fading very slowly, marxism, social class and socialism featured as things people took an interest in for longer here in NI than anywhere else.

    Its been much more rapid, I think since about the 1990s, the process of forgetting of those things and that culture and its importance but that has also been to do with the ascendency and discendency of other intellectual or politico trends, anarchism, all things libertarian and anarcho, even primitivism, became popular from the time of the first world trade talks riots and Chomsky's books circulating and disappeared again around about the time of 9/11 (and also Rage Against The Machine splitting up). After that all sorts of post-modern things and intellectual vogues have haunted the fringes but not built up like sediment or become a trend besides maybe a superficial consumer trend.

    I dont know what exists as youth culture now, I dont relate to anything contemporary really, I think the music, style and habits are all shit and pretty weak reflections of market trends or emanations from the economy. Its also incredibly fragmented, what is shared identity in some respects I reckon is what should properly be understood as personal or something you have no right to expect others to share in. It seems absurd to me still that someone who's heterosexual should be expected to validate homosexuals or homosexuality, its pretty authoritarian but the alternatives arent much better, either equally authoritarian or just vegging out. I've gone back even further to find scenes, which I'll acknowledge probably never existed, which I might identify with.

    Identifying with others hasnt really bothered me all my life, especially since other people are wrong about a hell of a lot of things a hell of a lot of the time.

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    I don't know how people even identify with "generations".

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowriot View Post
    So do you feel you are trapped between two generations? Have you had difficulty with finding a place you belong? What about expectations?
    i figured i wouldn't fit in easily no matter what..thought it was a personal thing. never really thought about it as a gen x thing. i know a lot of people from the same generation, and most have happily fell into suburban family life or something..start watching sean hannity, get all career oriented about plumbing or some shit, make fun of kids with long hair now. i thought it may have been an typology thing actually.

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    I don't know, I'm 23 and I have friends in their early 30s its just not that big of a deal in my circle of friends for someone to be way older their's also people who are as young as 19.of course from the 30 year olds we hear about how great the 80s were.of course I don't what I'm talking about, I'm no where near 30.

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