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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i actually think it's probably pretty typical enfp behavior...that want to absorb someones being to fully empathize and understand who they are and where they come from...you don't have that?

    and again i'm not saying i don't get anything out of reading. i'm pretty good at painting a picture from words alone but yes i will always prefer more information about a subject i'm interested in...the more i know the more i understand.
    Well you didn't objectively address what I said in my previous post. So I guess we can agree to disagree,

    Yes, I mention I'm ENFP myself, but like with anything human, there is the good and there is the bad. And I strive to fight against my own biases. I've made mistakes before. You say the more information the more you understand...but understand about what? The actual message or the person?

    Is that why so many people seem to have a problem simply discussing ideas and not getting offended when one disagrees or what have you...? I like being able to just discuss the ideas and not being read into it, or having some people saying I'm an asshole for giving my honest opinion on something and having the other person reading meaning into it that was not intended without focusing on the actual intellectual merit of the message.

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    yeah you call it bias i call it empathy you think it's something negative to be fought against and i think it's something positive that should be embraced...hell enfps are only moderately good at most things but we excel typically at this...human behavior and cognition....when someone is debating ideas...i apply my full knowledge of them to their words so i understand from the inside out how they were intended.

    and yes...visual cues...tone...expression...knowing one's upbringing...all of this adds to that information pool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    That's why a charismatic guy in one group might say one thing and have everyone applaud him and the anti-charismatic person say the exact same thing and people hate him for it.
    Excellent point. By the way, Ted Bundy fooled a lot of people before he was finally captured.

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    gee... then why don't we just round up all of the charismatic people and shoot them for being too damned convincing, and potential serial killers at that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    yeah you call it bias i call it empathy you think it's something negative to be fought against and i think it's something positive that should be embraced...hell enfps are only moderately good at most things but we excel typically at this...human behavior and cognition....when someone is debating ideas...i apply my full knowledge of them to their words so i understand from the inside out how they were intended.

    and yes...visual cues...tone...expression...knowing one's upbringing...all of this adds to that information pool.
    Probably you would do this as a way to understand someone better (which is great!), but I am not convinced this is the case with everyone, which may be what Sytpg is getting at. Or maybe not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    gee... then why don't we just round up all of the charismatic people and shoot them for being too damned convincing, and potential serial killers at that
    That is an overreaction, and you know it. Lol.

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    so...sy...are you saying it is your opinion that the words matter more? you think it is more truthful without the full picture?

    you think the full picture is not the truth? or you think the information one attaches to it is not? it can be seen both ways really...like...that's the truth...why hide it?? and you can't see the truth unless some aspects are hidden...hmm it's an interesting break from reality...that desire to conduct conversation in that way...but it isn't one i find necessary or in any way more meaningful then reality based ones where people are out in the open and taking full responsibility for everything that they are.
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    ^ I'm saying that it's very fallible and could even make you ignore bad shit a good (in your eyes) person says and vice versa.

    And like I said I'm an ENFP myself. For all you know I can even be better at reading people than most ENFPs here. So that is not the issue at all.

    Whatever : Hit the nail right in the head, but as usual misinterpreting my comments. Which is a prime example why I hate biases btw.

    When I say you hit the nail right in the head, I eman when you used the words convincing. Not saying being charismatic is bad, but it often clouds the message.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    yeah you call it bias i call it empathy you think it's something negative to be fought against and i think it's something positive that should be embraced...hell enfps are only moderately good at most things but we excel typically at this...human behavior and cognition....when someone is debating ideas...i apply my full knowledge of them to their words so i understand from the inside out how they were intended.

    and yes...visual cues...tone...expression...knowing one's upbringing...all of this adds to that information pool.
    You are assuming you mostly get things right. That's fairly arrogant. But I won't continue discussing this until you address all the points and questions I made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    ^ I'm saying that it's very fallible and could even make you ignore bad shit a good (in your eyes) person says and vice versa.

    And like I said I'm an ENFP myself. For all you know I can even be better at reading people than most ENFPs here. So that is not the issue at all.

    Whatever : Hit the nail right in the head, but as usual misinterpreting my comments. Which is a prime example why I hate biases btw.

    When I say you hit the nail right in the head, I eman when you used the words convincing. Not saying being charismatic is bad, but it often clouds the message.



    You are assuming you mostly get things right. That's fairly arrogant. But I won't continue discussing this until you address all the points and questions I made.
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