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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Most of the folks I know using Dell's are using them for office work. Fairly dependable but I do see some problems with they're dedicated graphics cards crapping out, usually in the Inspiron 1705 model.
    Dell laptops are more than adequate for everyday computing. I push my systems to relatively high levels of performance, but have yet to "max one out." Bottom line is though that all the times I have spent some extra money and bought a desktop/laptop with a good MoBo, processor, memory, and video card it has performed with little or no problems.

    I did not realize the onboard video on the 1705 is prone to issues. Honestly I don't like "shared" video memory anyway. But, many systems nowadays come like that stock...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Last time I owned a Toshiba, the cooling fan blew out within the 1st 3 months. Blew two hard drives. Had power faults on the dvd drive anytime I tried to burn a cd, had to manually ramp the burn speed down to about 1/4 of max.
    Damn!

    I am really surprised to hear that. I hope they took care of you from the standpoint of repairs/returns under warranty.

    One thing I can say for Dell's service, when my MoBo on the E9400/1705 system crapped out they sent a repair tech to my parent's house (I was traveling!) the next day and fixed it free of charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Granted, I was luggin' that computer around a warzone, so it may not be a fair assessment of 'normal operating conditions'.
    Yeah, right! I saw your footer; are you U.S. Army airborn infantry? If so, thank you for serving!!! I'm an Army brat. My Dad is a retired full bird, my brother did the reserves for awhile. I'm just a militant suburbanite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    The older Alienwares held up exceptionally well. I'd love to have a Panasonic toughbook, but they're way over-priced for the hardware specs. You really pay for the indestructibility.
    The Panasonic toughbook looked badass. I wanted one forever because...ummm...I break stuff.

    I've never owned an Alienware...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    That's where I go for the Asus EEE PC. I love their stuff and they pretty much kicked off the netbook craze. Lot of friends using that 10.5" Acer model though.
    I'm going to check those out, maybe one will be my stocking stuffer to me from me this Xmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Yeah, friend of mine once gave me that 'no price limit' thing and wouldn't budge on it. So I went on to either VooDooPC or Falcon Northwest's site and configured him an $8200 laptop. His response, ":eek: Ummm...try to keep it under $2k." Got the point across.
    ROFLMAO! :yim_rolling_on_the_ Oh, I'll bet he shit his pants at that price tag. Dear Lord!

    I built up a customized digital audio workstation laptop a little while ago and the whole thing maxxed out was around $3,000.

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    Before I switched to Mac I had one Compaq and two Toshiba laptops. I would recommend Toshiba without hesitation. Good machines that didn't start breaking down for 4 years, which I think is a fair lifespan for a laptop.

    If money really is no object, I would look into a MacBook Pro. The gaming is the one place it would fall short. I was a dyed in the wool PC guy and had to buy a Mac for work, but I'm very pleased with it. I don't think I'd buy a PC again for a reason other than the cost issue. It's a legitimate concern.
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    Toshiba's are known for reliability, they're expensive, but usually well worth the money.

    As for the sony's, the F series has very good specs, but a short battery life. If you buy that one, go for the large battery and the Solid State Drive (it's essentially a high-performance flash card, it's faster and uses less power than a regular hard disk.)

    It will probably cost more with those options though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    I did not realize the onboard video on the 1705 is prone to issues. Honestly I don't like "shared" video memory anyway. But, many systems nowadays come like that stock...
    Yeah, I didn't know about the GPU problems until my friend's crapped out and I started doing research. I could get it to run fine on XP generic VGA drivers, but as soon as you loaded the manufacturer drivers the whole thing went nuts and crapped out. 17" screen + generic drivers = suck. Shared memory is never good.

    Damn!

    I am really surprised to hear that. I hope they took care of you from the standpoint of repairs/returns under warranty.

    One thing I can say for Dell's service, when my MoBo on the E9400/1705 system crapped out they sent a repair tech to my parent's house (I was traveling!) the next day and fixed it free of charge.
    Got the fan replaced under warranty. The rest of it I had to do on my own. Luckily there were some guys I was able to scavenge usable parts from when their laptops crapped out. Dell's service is pretty awesome, still hate calling any customer service when dealing with IT stuff.

    Yeah, right! I saw your footer; are you U.S. Army airborn infantry? If so, thank you for serving!!! I'm an Army brat. My Dad is a retired full bird, my brother did the reserves for awhile. I'm just a militant suburbanite.
    I was in an Airborne signal unit right down the street from the 82nd on Ft. Bragg. Just a little E4/Specialist. Did my 4 years, blew out my shoulder and back on a jump gone wrong, called it quits while I was still (mostly) in one piece. Send my thanks to your family for serving and thanks to you for being able to deal with the military life. Its not an easy thing for families either.

    The Panasonic toughbook looked badass. I wanted one forever because...ummm...I break stuff.
    I feel ya. I'm kinda known as 'The Voider of Warranties'. There should be a clause in all warranties stating that it will be null and void if I ever lay my hands on the item. Those toughbooks are awesome.You could close the lid on those things, fling it into a concrete wall full force, open it back up and continue working. We tested it...thoroughly

    I built up a customized digital audio workstation laptop a little while ago and the whole thing maxxed out was around $3,000.

    Check this site for some sick options:

    ADK Pro Audio Digital Audio workstations

    I'll have to check that out. I know crap about audio, I've got friends for that,lol!
    'Bout the closest thing I've got to an audio workstation is a Snowball USB mic and Music Maker 12 loaded on my desktop. Set the mic in front of my amp and record the occasional bass-line so I can critique my own playing.

    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    f money really is no object, I would look into a MacBook Pro. The gaming is the one place it would fall short. I was a dyed in the wool PC guy and had to buy a Mac for work, but I'm very pleased with it. I don't think I'd buy a PC again for a reason other than the cost issue. It's a legitimate concern.
    From everything I know, PC= Superior Gaming/Office. Mac= Superior Audio/Video Editing. Halla74 seems to know his audio. Any idea how PC stacks up to Mac these days in the A/V department?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmy View Post
    If you buy that one, go for the large battery and the Solid State Drive (it's essentially a high-performance flash card, it's faster and uses less power than a regular hard disk.)
    I would actually suggest staying away from SSD's. Granted, they're hella fast (and expensive), but they have a limited write cycle and OP said he does a lot of editing, not a good combination. Its actually suggested when running an SSD to disable the swap/page file in the OS or redirect it to a microSD card in the card reader. This way you're not spending as much money and its easily swapped out when you burn the card out from the constant read/write cycles. If they ever get that problem solved with flash memory, SSD's would be the heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Shared memory is never good.
    QFT! (Quoted For Truth!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Got the fan replaced under warranty. The rest of it I had to do on my own.
    Sounds like a typical warrant a$$ plundering to me. BOHICA!!! (Bend Over Here It Comes Again!) I will never buy any warranty for anything due to all my prior claims being denied by a snot nosed call center clerk 5,000 miles away reading a script...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Luckily there were some guys I was able to scavenge usable parts from when their laptops crapped out. Dell's service is pretty awesome, still hate calling any customer service when dealing with IT stuff.
    Interesting you mention that. At one point I had 4 HP Pavillion desktop systems. I owned one, and then picked up two by trading a guy I know my labor for landscaping his backyard and the time needed to transfer all his files from his two old systems to a new iMac. I got 2 PCs, 2 LCD monitors, and keyboard/mouse blah blah for about a weekend's worth of work. I gave the PCs to my kids, they've had a computer since as long as they can remember. Muhahaaa!

    I actually bought a defective Pavillion series desktop off eBay just for parts, and the memory, soundcard, a hard drive, and NIC, etc. has all come in handy, for very little money...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    I was in an Airborne signal unit right down the street from the 82nd on Ft. Bragg. Just a little E4/Specialist. Did my 4 years, blew out my shoulder and back on a jump gone wrong, called it quits while I was still (mostly) in one piece.
    You jumped out of perfectly functional airplanes and setup compicated telecommunications equipment under fire. I salute you, dude!

    I've had 3 shoulder operations and also have a lower back injury (herniation at L3/L4) so I sincerely wish you the best in dealing with that. I manage to keep active, but dude, I am now painfully aware of my mortality, no pun intended...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Send my thanks to your family for serving and thanks to you for being able to deal with the military life. Its not an easy thing for families either.
    I will, my pops is really cool (ESTJ Type-A hostile, hilarious!) and I am thankful to have had the childhood I did. Great people, great neighbors, great community, great neighborhood, never mind getting bomb threats from the Red Army Brigade in the 2nd/3rd grade while living in Germany in 1981-1983, fuck it! We used to sneak past hte MP's to go raise hell in the German farm town behind us (Bad Vilbel).

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    I feel ya. I'm kinda known as 'The Voider of Warranties'. There should be a clause in all warranties stating that it will be null and void if I ever lay my hands on the item.
    BHWAHHH!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    Those toughbooks are awesome.You could close the lid on those things, fling it into a concrete wall full force, open it back up and continue working. We tested it...thoroughly
    No shit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    I'll have to check that out. I know crap about audio, I've got friends for that,lol!
    Outsource it, yeah!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    'Bout the closest thing I've got to an audio workstation is a Snowball USB mic and Music Maker 12 loaded on my desktop. Set the mic in front of my amp and record the occasional bass-line so I can critique my own playing.
    The universe is vast and easy to expand. Call me anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    From everything I know, PC= Superior Gaming/Office. Mac= Superior Audio/Video Editing. Halla74 seems to know his audio. Any idea how PC stacks up to Mac these days in the A/V department?
    Most PRO shops still use Mac DAW's, but the differences in stability are honestly negligible at this point, ever since XP SP2. With a PC DAW you have more VST instruments/effects available to tinker with. Plus, the machine itself is cheaper to procure...

    I would love a Mac though. A buddy of mine DJs with one live and swears by it for purposes of stability...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix_400 View Post
    I would actually suggest staying away from SSD's. Granted, they're hella fast (and expensive), but they have a limited write cycle and OP said he does a lot of editing, not a good combination. Its actually suggested when running an SSD to disable the swap/page file in the OS or redirect it to a microSD card in the card reader. This way you're not spending as much money and its easily swapped out when you burn the card out from the constant read/write cycles. If they ever get that problem solved with flash memory, SSD's would be the heat.
    Interesting, I have never read up on this, thanks for sharing.
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    I my Toshiba Satellite laptop, much better than my old VAIO, and HP.



    Highly functional, the speakers suck balls, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    I my Toshiba Satellite laptop, much better than my old VAIO, and HP.



    Highly functional, the speakers suck balls, though.
    hey, about how long did your VAIO and HP last? and about how many hours a day on average did you use them both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Sounds like a typical warrant a$$ plundering to me. BOHICA!!! (Bend Over Here It Comes Again!) I will never buy any warranty for anything due to all my prior claims being denied by a snot nosed call center clerk 5,000 miles away reading a script...
    Yeah, I never get the extended warranty on anything. Major factors for me are serviceability, parts availability, and popular consumer support (forums, etc). If you have an interest in that EEE PC and like to tweak your systems, I'd suggest checking out this forum:
    EeeUser.com — The Eee PC Community
    Those guys do some crazy things to that netbook. If I remember right, Asus actually sends some of their customers to that forum for support even though its just an enthusiast forum.

    Interesting you mention that. At one point I had 4 HP Pavillion desktop systems. I owned one, and then picked up two by trading a guy I know my labor for landscaping his backyard and the time needed to transfer all his files from his two old systems to a new iMac. I got 2 PCs, 2 LCD monitors, and keyboard/mouse blah blah for about a weekend's worth of work. I gave the PCs to my kids, they've had a computer since as long as they can remember. Muhahaaa!

    I actually bought a defective Pavillion series desktop off eBay just for parts, and the memory, soundcard, a hard drive, and NIC, etc. has all come in handy, for very little money...
    LMAO! I've actually got 2 footlockers full of PC parts and a couple of towers sitting around. I had to go through a few months ago and throw out another 2 footlockers worth of stuff that was too obsolete to be useful anymore. I do some computer repairs on the side and it comes in handy. I've got an old PIII system sitting around with Win95 on it so I can play some of my old favorites (Mechwarrior 2, Interstate 76, etc). XP compatibility mode can be hit or miss on games...scratch that, I just remembered its a problem with DX7 and older games not being compatible with DX8 and above.


    You jumped out of perfectly functional airplanes and setup compicated telecommunications equipment under fire. I salute you, dude!

    I've had 3 shoulder operations and also have a lower back injury (herniation at L3/L4) so I sincerely wish you the best in dealing with that. I manage to keep active, but dude, I am now painfully aware of my mortality, no pun intended...
    LOL! Military equipment = no such thing as 'perfectly functional'
    I've got a disc protrusion around my L5/S1 (if I remember correctly). Tore 2 tendons in my shoulder and it would snap out of socket if I had to carry more than 30lbs (yeah, how often does THAT happen in the military), always snapped it back in myself. I didn't want to miss the deployment to Iraq so I kept my mouth shut and ran like that for a year, got it fixed when I got back. Doesn't snap outta socket anymore, but bursitis sucks and it freezes up more than I care for.

    I will, my pops is really cool (ESTJ Type-A hostile, hilarious!) and I am thankful to have had the childhood I did. Great people, great neighbors, great community, great neighborhood, never mind getting bomb threats from the Red Army Brigade in the 2nd/3rd grade while living in Germany in 1981-1983, fuck it! We used to sneak past hte MP's to go raise hell in the German farm town behind us (Bad Vilbel).
    Always wanted to go to Germany (we stopped through on flights to the sandbox). Everybody who's ever been there says it rocks. My unit only deployed to Korea, Afghanistan, and Iraq...I got to do the 2...sandier options. Korea would've been fun, except for the fact that I would've ended up with multiple cases of alcohol poisoning...and I think they actually issue every soldier a wife before they come back stateside
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    I have a Sonsy Viao CW and it is awesome =]. Just throwing it out there. I have only had it for a few months, but I am very happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMondae View Post
    I have a Sonsy Viao CW and it is awesome =]. Just throwing it out there. I have only had it for a few months, but I am very happy with it.
    Hey there!

    What do you use it for?

    General computing?
    Audio?
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