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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I think some of that is your own juju, as you've sounded like a negative nancy throughout this thread.

    The other side of it is likely because you're hearing from a lot of Americans.

    I guarantee you the Chinese, Indians, Brazilians, and many other emerging nations didn't look at it as a bad time.

    Also affecting your perception is what Litvyak and others have pointed to: that we live in a tremendously confusing world.

    But that's just a quality of living in mass society; it's nothing all-too-particular to the 2000s, really...
    If I'm not mistaken, this thread was created from an American perspective. While 1960s was about drugs and peace and the 1970s were about drugs but not so much about the peace in America, I'm pretty sure in the Soviet Union that was not so much the case.

    I tried to point out something positive (the advent of free, user-produced content), but it seems to have been shot down by the perspective that it's just created by narcissistic idiots and only makes the rest of us voyeurs stupider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Does anybody feel the 10's coming on yet?
    For sure.

    It's the decade of the multipolar world, and it's sorting itself out as we speak.

    It's a decade where the internet is already ubiquitous, and where kids entering college can't even remember a time when it didn't exist.

    It's a time when China has already asserted itself as the second most important player on the global stage, and is trying to figure out exactly how to behave with the declining, albeit still most dominant, power.

    It's a time when America is trying to figure out what it wants to be. On both the domestic and foreign fronts.

    Domestic: More capitalist? More socialist? More socialist within its capitalism?

    What about: Healthcare? Legalization of drugs? 12MM illegal immigrants? Medicare and Social Security? Our tremendous national debt and deficits?

    Foreign: Should we still have military bases all over the world? Can we afford to?

    The world economy is going through a major transition from its previous structure to something altogether newer, flatter, and _________...

    And who knows what else might be on our horizon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    You do not feel the negativity oozing out of that decade? The decade where everything will give you cancer, everyone wants to kill you, your mind is turning to mush because of the television, you're getting fat and that's going to kill you, too, all food is bad for you, you've lost your job, there's no hope for a job in the future because they're all going away, everyone's afraid to do anything because of liability, they're listening to what you say on your phones and watching your internet connection, people are getting dumber and dumber and want to shame you for it, and it doesn't matter anyway because you're going to die from global flooding soon anyway, and it's all hopeless hopeless hopeless because there's nothing you can do about any of it, and you're just so exhausted you spend so much time on an internet forum like this one.

    Possibly the only things that could possibly be considered good that came out of this decade were bad, according to Babylon Candle, so... there's nothing, and nothing for the future, either.
    "Sometimes in our confusion, we see not the world as it is, but the world through eyes blurred by the mind"

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    hmm...the past decade? I usually refer to it as the "Zero Sum Decade" or more simply, "The Age of Incompetance."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    No, no no, the '00s were about the future beginning. We spent the latter half of the 20th century fearing an Orwellian society, when really we shouldn't have been listening to Orwell but rather have been listening to Philip K. Dick's versions of dystopia.

    Babylon, stop calling my generation one of total fuck-ups. No matter how disparaging people get about the next generations, you cannot forget, they are your future.
    I apologize for the negative nancy comment.

    I hadn't read posts 60-70 when I made that comment.

    You're negative nancyism started around posts 70-80.

    It seems you have some healthy optimism in you, and that's refreshing.

    Believe in your generation; but also recognize it for its faults.

    That's not to say to blind yourself to the bad spots, as they certainly exist.

    Just remember the brighter spots as well.

    [note: In the way generations are most commonly talked about, I'm actually at the oldest end of your generation: the "Millenials".]

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    Adapting to the wake of globalization

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    ^^ p.s. I totally agree with you about Philip K. Dick's versions of dystopia being much more realistic than Orwell (at least in the U.S. -- not necessarily in Russia or China).

    Ray Bradbury's vision in "Fahrenheit 451" is also at least right up there with Dick's visions, though.

    "Brave New World" is not too inaccurate either, and seems to be coming closer and closer to reality when we read stories about embryos being produced in a laboratory from two mothers and one father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNoLimits View Post
    Adapting to the wake of globalization
    Very true.


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    When it comes to the internet, so many people see idiots talking about nothing, when I see that creative expression is becoming less and less hampered by the need to attract patronage. While of course our rights say we can express ourselves, not everyone has had the means to do so, while more and more people have the means.
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    It certainly democratizes things.

    I think your metaphor about the oak tree and the acorn summed it up well.

    There is a lot of crap out there, but the reduced need for patronage is spurring more innovation and allowing creativity to more easily flourish.

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