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    Wink To all the P’s Especially the strong ones

    How do you guys view your (extremely J-ish) neighbors/friends/classmates/employees?

    Would you describe J’s as neurotic? Paranoid? Obsessive compulsive? Loons?

    And how "J-ish" are the previously mentioned people? Do they fold their cloths into discrete cubes, keep medical kits under their desks, refuse to buy or use any other brand of shampoo that is not their favorite, break into your home late at night and reorganize all of your belongings (not stealing), post earthquake survival safety tips beside every doorway in the house/office, etc?

    And finally, do you consider us annoying?
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    Nope. Everyone has their own personal space and it's up them to decide what they do with it. Try not to judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainne View Post
    Nope. Everyone has their own personal space and it's up them to decide what they do with it. Try not to judge.
    i see what you did there.

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    It depends on the severity of the Js. They can be obsessive-compulsive, hoarders, have extreme anxiety and break down when pushed to make quick decisions, and can be so set in their ways that they alienate the people around them because they shut others out in order to maintain the integrity of their little rituals. The "my way or the highway" mentality can lead to the need to not just control but dominate their environment (and sometimes the people in it) and close themselves to experiencing new things so completely that they almost function in their own self-contained world where they are never wrong and everyone else just doesn't understand.

    They have things arranged a certain way in their minds. If they make a plan that they thought out as thoroughly and perfectly as possible and something comes along to throw a wrench in it, it can be extremely distressing.

    They can over-plan to the extreme. I once knew a man who would write out witty replies as he thought of them and would have them on-hand to look through during conversations so he could be clever on cue. He would even steer the conversation that way so he could use them. He would set up his physical environment so that people would be naturally led to do certain actions, which would give him openings to do certain actions, etc and so on. If an unknown element was introduced into his little games of human chess (as I liked to call it) he'd get flustered and become indignant or passive-aggressively hostile toward the person who messed things up.

    These are what I've seen of Js gone off the deep end of their J-ness, though. Nothing like the healthier and better balanced Js that I've known.
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    Sometimes overly picky and wanting even minor things to turn out a certain way. The worst is when some don't even take action to make things turn out the way they want; they just expect it to happen.

    But then, I also view some people as way too wishy-washy, indecisive, and disorganized.


    It's okay if it works for them and doesn't affect other people around them. But we all know how often that's the case..


    Quote Originally Posted by Pettycure View Post
    The "my way or the highway" mentality
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    They have things arranged a certain way in their minds. If they make a plan that they thought out as thoroughly and perfectly as possible and something comes along to throw a wrench in it, it can be extremely distressing.
    Oh God yeah all of this too

    My ISFJ mother expected all of us to be over for Easter dinner at 2:00, but she outright told me 3:00. She didn't deny that she told me that--she just said that we "usually eat Easter dinner around 2:00".

    As a result, she'd stopped cooking because she "hadn't heard from anybody", as if her own phone doesn't have a "call" button and as if everyone should have known what she was thinking when, not only did she not tell anyone, she outright told them differently.

    When we all arrived, she wouldn't shut up about how she didn't hear from everyone and so she had to stop cooking. As if she didn't contribute to the situation at all. She was pretty much saying, "Look, guys; look how much of a victim I am."

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    I think that they're funny, and their attempts to keep things organized are cute!

    I have a feeling that Js think that I'm intentionally tormenting them when I perch near where they're working and ask a string of questions like a 5 year old might...

    "whatcha doing?"

    "why are you doing that?"

    "is it all organized yet?"

    "you're doing that for fun?"

    and so on and so forth

    Js make me think of Mr Monk, especially the severe ones and I LOVE watching Monk, so I just consider it somewhat as my own take home version of the man and giggle!
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    I show them the gun license for my strong Pness.

    No, actually people who use all those words like "we have to plan it" or "we have to organize it" or "chores" I tend to hate and exclude from my life.

    Bad idea was to marry a FJ but besides that, I am doing well at ignoring.
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    kinda like whatever...i think it can be funny or cute to observe

    but just don't try to impose upon me with your ways please.
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    Keep 'em coming. This is good stuff. *takes notes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainne View Post
    Nope. Everyone has their own personal space and it's up them to decide what they do with it. Try not to judge.
    Typically I only get bent with J types when I feel like they're judging me as inferior or inadequate because I'm not as tangibly organized as they are. Otherwise I just see it as diversity to be embraced and appreciated.
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