For those who think that money is evil, what would have in its stead? Simple charity? Utter independence from anyone else in the world? Everyone working and being paid in food?
In most instances people who abhor money and moneyed social relationships would prefer that gift relationships would expand to replace them, that's not the same as charity and its not as though money has always acted as the social glue and singular facilitator of exchange that it has today, for a long, long time it was only exchanged between nobles or guilds masters or the like.
There are also lots of different schemes for replacing money or adjusting its value or social status if you check online, for instance LETS schemes, local exchange token schemes, where in people trade skills or time, for instance a night of child minding in exchange for plumbing work or debugging a hard drive. There's credit notes, they featured in a big way in Proudhon's elaborate schemes to try and adjust the stand alone value of money divorced from work, labour or effort, some of that thinking features in Edward Bellamy's utopian Looking Backward and Equality or in another format in Participatory Economics.
I'm interested in some of those ideas but I dont think they are feasible or fashionable, they also have their looney tune equivalents in the ranks of people who dont think the present system affords enough ways of ripping people off, exploiting people or getting rich quick, like allowing banks to print their own money, allowing anyone to print their own money, leading to even more currencies than there are aleady.
Besides that there's all the conservative and market libertarian ideas about abandoning a mass consumer economy, with its attendent circulation of money through tax and spending (either on security and military or social services and entitlements), and reverting to gold standards, scarcity, niche markets/rich mans paradise and saving.
That's not to mention all the kooky ecowarrior ideas about slow growth or zero growth economies or changing the reserves which money nominally or theoretically represents, whether its gold, energy or legitimacy, to trees (I kid you not!).
So I'm a socialist but love money, life is full of contradictions and I can live with it.
If someone thinks up of something that he or she knows he or she could make big bucks off of, the chances of that person bringing that idea to reality is astronomically higher. Therefore, the selfish motive of greed is likely a reason we have many inventions we have today. Inventors are often NT's, and only some NT's will release their inventions for the good of humanity. These people are called 'Closet NFs'.
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Originally Posted by Edgar
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money is a trade medium and something many people get trapped in the pursuit of. the greatest experiences in life usually do not cost very much, and once someone is super rich they tend to gloss over those opportunities.
Yeah. I like to draw upon the bell-curve of money and happiness when it comes to this matter. Having just a little extra than you need is where happiness peaks, after that is plateaus and if you don't have enough to survive happiness is significantly hindered.
On a related note, I was always struck with a certain bitterness when I watched shows like cribs years ago. I would observe most other people's reactions when watching the show to compare. I think they were often fixated on envy, like my mom, who would get starry-eyed at the thought of having as much money as them. I was fixated on the fact that many of the people on these shows usually didn't use over half of what they owned. They always had a room or two they admitted never using, an empty refrigerator, a few cars that served little or no purpose. I still try to find the point of those programs. I kind of figured the point was to draw out negative thoughts and feelings in people, which really rubbed me the wrong way.