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    What do you believe to be true, Victor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Nor does it mean your opinions on which kinds of typology are more plausible than others are objectively verifiable or universally accepted.

    Try to keep in mind that your decisions regarding which ideas to label "folk typology" are subjective. If virtually everyone on the forum but you is a folk typologist, what do you even get out of communicating with people here? Clearly none of us are qualified to discuss this topic at all, so you should probably just stop wasting your time on us.
    I move that you be referred to as SimWo now, to differentiate you from Solitary Walker. Now you'll sound like good asian food, and the SW acronym all over the place won't be confusing.

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    Why don't we start calling him ShamWOW for short instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    What do you believe to be true, Victor?
    I believe something is reasonably true or false based on evidence.

    When I was a child I had blind faith, but as I matured I learnt to see.

    And the gift of sight came through the Enlightenment which gave us evidence and reason in place of blind faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Why don't we start calling him ShamWOW for short instead?
    I just really want some asian food right now.

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    So other than the fact that all this business is non-empirical, which I think you'll have no one disagree with you about, what are you asserting, and what empirical evidence do you have to back that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Try to keep in mind that your decisions regarding which ideas to label "folk typology" are subjective..
    There is nothing subjective about it. There is a definition of the term and whatever practice falls under that definition is labelled as folk typology. Folk typology is a practice of categorizing people into groups without any concern for the logical consistency or factual accuracy of the practice. Undoubtedly, we have plenty of this on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    There is nothing subjective about it. There is a definition of the term and whatever practice falls under that definition is labelled as folk typology. Folk typology is a practice of categorizing people into groups without any concern for the logical consistency or factual accuracy of the practice. Undoubtedly, we have plenty of this on the forum.
    That's interesting, because a google search for "folk typology" turns up nothing but threads on this forum. As far as I can tell, you invented this term yourself, decided on its definition arbitrarily, and then decided it wasn't subjective...based on what? Your own opinions about which typology is useful and which is not?

    It's consistently amusing how Ti assumes itself to be objective/can't recognize its own subjectivity. It's also hilarious that you consider yourself some kind of objective authority on the topic because you paid to self-publish a book about it.

    What source for the definition of "folk typology" can you cite outside of your own opinions and self-invented definitions?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    So other than the fact that all this business is non-empirical, which I think you'll have no one disagree with you about, what are you asserting, and what empirical evidence do you have to back that up?
    Typology is not an empirical study. It belongs in the discipline of philosophy where insights are to be derived by seeking logical consistency within the terms involved. Jung pointed out some very basic premises about human nature, which are nearly indubitable. Everyone has a tendency to use imagination, everyone has a tendency to use the five senses, everyone has a tendency to emote and to perceive structure in the world by conscious thought. Its also the case that since many of these cognitive processes are antithetical to one another, some must be stronger than others. This is how we get a hierarchy of cognitive functions. Jung also has extensive definitions of all of these cognitive faculties. Thus, knowing what the fundamental properties of the human mind are and how they relate to one another will allow us to deduce everything we need to know about the study of Jungian temperament.

    There is no novel scientific investigation in the business of typological inquiry; almost none of it includes an inquiry that is even reminiscent to the empirical inquiry common to psychology, sociology or anthropology. It is nearly exclusively about discovering the proper logical relations between faculties of the human mind that Jung has already discovered.
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    It's strange calling something a "folk" variety, when it's a highly specialized niche that actually gives a damn about these things.

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