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    I am able to see past the consumerism.

    Just because something is trying to be sold to us doesn't mean it cannot be bought of our own free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    Isn't that life? Do you boycott TV? Driving because of billboards? Malls and stores because of ads? Seems arbitrary.
    Actually I don't notice most advertising because I've trained myself to ignore it. Plus TiVo is awesome.

    Who goes to malls anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    This might be what I see as a big part of it. There are only true holidays (i.e. ideals) and we should stick to those. (<-- theory that might cause someone to feel that way)
    What is a "true" holiday?

    Aren't all holidays culturally arbitrary?

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    I'm fine with people hating on holidays, big time. I'd do it.. but I don't care enough.

    Now, the people who hate on holiday haters.... I hate those fuckers.

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    I think it's just people being reminded of what they don't have, like a valentines' day, and taking a sort of victimized stance in regard to being reminded of it. Or, being reminded that they have a shitty family they hate hanging out with, and figured they wouldn't have to see if them if it weren't for that god damn baby Jesus getting everyone in a tizzy.

    Anyways, I think it's less to do with the holiday than it has to do with that person's life, and the holiday becomes the scapegoat.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    What is a "true" holiday?

    Aren't all holidays culturally arbitrary?
    My point exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    I am able to see past the consumerism. Just because something is trying to be sold to us doesn't mean it cannot be bought of our own free will.
    That.

    (Likewise: just because I quoted her post doesn't mean I didn't have the same idea.)

    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I think it's just people being reminded of what they don't have, like a valentines' day, and taking a sort of victimized stance in regard to being reminded of it. Or, being reminded that they have a shitty family they hate hanging out with, and figured they wouldn't have to see if them if it weren't for that god damn baby Jesus getting everyone in a tizzy.
    There's a lot of pressure to conform to holidays based on someone else's investment level. Lots of obligations / tacit social pressure imposed on people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Actually I don't notice most advertising because I've trained myself to ignore it. Plus TiVo is awesome.

    Who goes to malls anymore?
    Why haven't you trained yourself to ignore the consumerism around holidays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    My point exactly.
    So, then why allow your OP to bother you?

    If everything is arbitrary, nothing is done on purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    Why haven't you trained yourself to ignore the consumerism around holidays?
    I do. But then someone always brings it up like I'm expected to participate.

    There needs to be an "I'm Jewish" answer to every holiday like Christmas.

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