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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    The Enlightenment was an outgrowth of the Reformation. Surely you knew that right?

    Where's Victor's indignation over the English rising up against and then executing their own rightful monarch in the Civil War, and then again overthrowing their rightful king in the so-called "Glorious Revolution". Maybe we can talk about the radicialism involved in Cromwell's reign of terror over the land, not least of which against the Catholic Irish(yeah yeah they were haboring pedophiles). Perhaps we can also talk about the Massacre at Glencoe.

    Nah.....let's whine about the bad ol'Yanks. :rolli:
    He already refused to talk about the Jacobite Uprisings.

    Then there's Corn Laws and other oppressive laws that pressured the lower classes into crimes and helped to populate Australia.

    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    That's the major part about seeking. You could never say that for sure
    History is cause and effect. There's no quibbling about it. The Enlightenment grew out of the Reformation and the Romantic age happened as a reaction to the Englitenment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Edit: You're overlooking something here. Australia's hands are no cleaner than USA hands. The first thing Cook did when he got off the ship in Botany Bay was fire his gun at indigenous Australians. Conquest of your continent rests on the blood of an estimated 20,000+ indigenous people.
    Recon Victor talked about independence, not settlement, for a reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    He already refused to talk about the Jacobite Uprisings.

    Then there's Corn Laws and other oppressive laws that pressured the lower classes into crimes and helped to populate Australia.
    Yes I know all about his selective reading of history. This is especially true whenever I bring up the "forgotten Australians" an entire generation of children victimised and abused. Yet Victor insists they were given a better life, even though last year Australia's PM officially apologized for what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Conquest of your continent rests on the blood of an estimated 20,000+ indigenous people.
    The third volume of Keith Windschuttle's groundbreaking, "The Fabrication of Aboriginal History", is just out.

    Why not read the whole three volumes then you would have no need to keep repeating fabrications about aboriginal history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The third volume of Keith Windschuttle's groundbreaking, "The Fabrication of Aboriginal History", is just out.

    Why not read the whole three volumes then you would have no need to keep repeating fabrications about aboriginal history.
    How about you post some relevant excerpts for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    How about you post some relevant excerpts for us.
    You ruined any chance of Victor's compliance with your request when you included the word "relevant."
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    There's a little more to American culture than Noah Webster and the Boston Tea Party.
    This is very hard to believe as I have just finished watching Sarah Palin addressing the Tea party.

    The Tea Party is alive and well today and strongly influencing your political life.

    All revolutionaries try to kill history just as the revolutionary, Pol Pot, took Cambodia back to Year Zero.

    Unfortunately for you history never dies and your Tea Party lives today as it did two hundred years ago.

    And I heard Sarah Palin, candidate for the Vice-Presidency of the United States of America, calling for a second revolution.

    History never dies but sometimes it repeats itself as parody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    History is cause and effect. There's no quibbling about it. The Enlightenment grew out of the Reformation and the Romantic age happened as a reaction to the Englitenment.
    History causes the effect, yes, in the moment we accept it in our belief

    I wouldnt want to neglect the genocide. But anything besides that may be open for interpretation
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    This is very hard to believe as I have just finished watching Sarah Palin addressing the Tea party.

    The Tea Party is alive and well today and strongly influencing your political life.

    All revolutionaries try to kill history just as the revolutionary, Pol Pot, took Cambodia back to Year Zero.

    Unfortunately for you history never dies and your Tea Party lives today as it did two hundred years ago.

    And I heard Sarah Palin, candidate for the Vice-Presidency of the United States of America, calling for a second revolution.

    History never dies but sometimes it repeats itself as parody.
    Oh yeah and what about this?

    [youtube="fH0GpqJ3L5E"]Diggers' Song[/youtube]

    In 1649
    To St George's Hill
    A ragged band they called the Diggers
    Came to show the people' s will
    They defied the landlords
    They defied the laws
    They were the dispossessed
    Reclaiming what was theirs

    We come in peace, they said
    To dig and sow
    We come to work the land in common
    And to make the waste land grow
    This earth divided
    We will make whole
    So it can be
    A common treasury for all.

    The sin of property
    We do disdain
    No one has any right to buy and sell
    The earth for private gain
    By theft and murder
    They took the land
    Now everywhere the walls
    Rise up at their command.

    They make the laws
    To chain us well
    The clergy dazzle us with heaven
    Or they damn us into hell
    We will not worship
    The God they serve
    The God of greed who feeds the rich
    While poor men starve

    We work, we eat together
    We need no swords
    We will not bow to masters
    Or pay rent to the lords
    We are free men
    Though we are poor
    You Diggers all stand up for glory

    Stand up now
    From the men of property
    The orders came
    They sent the hired men and troopers
    To wipe out the Diggers' claim
    Tear down their cottages
    Destroy their corn
    They were dispersed -
    Only the vision lingers on

    You poor take courage
    You rich take care
    The earth was made a common treasury
    For everyone to share
    All things in common
    All people one
    We come in peace
    The order came to cut them down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Recon Victor talked about independence, not settlement, for a reason
    He also mentioned the uniting of his contienent (okay look I can't spell this late at night!)

    Folks, he's INTJ btw, in my opinion what you people keep calling his Fi, is some Ni- tertiary Fi loop thing. Yeah, yeah I know that was folksy typology, I really don't give a damn.

    here, let's get out the mandolin and have a folk song...

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