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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Because Americans invented capitalism, obviously.
    No, but we did invent Twinkies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie

    And Walmart: People of Walmart: a collection of all the creatures that grace us with their presence at Walmart, America's favorite store.

    Who says we lack culture???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    Nah, we had Twain and Copland, it's a total cultureless wasteland.
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    Assuming that such a fantastic story is true...
    I am surprised you think this is a fantastic story as American corporations regularly treat foreign corporations and even foreign governments in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Phillip Adams of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation was directly involved with setting up a motion picture industry in Australia. And he was directly involved in the negotiations with Jack Valenti.

    Mr Adams is still working at the ABC and you can ring him for free and talk with him and hear it from the horse's mouth.

    But what is most revealing is that Australia's movie stars and directors are now working in Hollywood producing American propaganda.
    Interesting, because an article on game theory several years ago made a bold statement: why are Australian films so successful, given the population of Oz.

    The line went something like: because they are state sponsored, only the best ideas get carried forward; and only after pruning do the best of the best get turned into movies. And because less popular films never see the light of day, the view is that Australian cinema punches above its weight.

    Well, I don't know when the last Peter Weir film was made in Australia; but I know the last good Peter Weir film was: Picnic At Hanging Rock.

    If you sold out, don't blaim the guy that supplied the cheque. Blaim yourself.

    In this respect, only the French have the moral high ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    Who says we lack culture???
    No one says you lack culture. You have had the largest economy in the world for more than one hundred years, and you have a culture to match.

    And your popular culture in films and music and dress is the popular culture of the world.

    All peoples want to develop their own culture but we must do it in the face of American global culture.

    I expect you to defend your own culture so why would you be surprised I defend mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I expect you to defend your own culture so why would you be surprised I defend mine.
    Because we have no culture. You may not be saying it but we all know it. This is straight from the horse's mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Interesting, because an article on game theory several years ago made a bold statement: why are Australian films so successful, given the population of Oz.

    The line went something like: because they are state sponsored, only the best ideas get carried forward; and only after pruning do the best of the best get turned into movies. And because less popular films never see the light of day, the view is that Australian cinema punches above its weight.

    Well, I don't know when the last Peter Weir film was made in Australia; but I know the last good Peter Weir film was: Picnic At Hanging Rock.

    If you sold out, don't blaim the guy that supplied the cheque. Blaim yourself.

    In this respect, only the French have the moral high ground.
    From memory I think it is 98% of films shown in Australia are not Australian, and almost all of them are American.

    We don't have a government sponsored Australian film industry.

    When our democratically elected government decided to start an Australian film industry, Jack Valenti declared it to be socialist, and gave it the kibosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    No one says you lack culture. You have had the largest economy in the world for more than one hundred years, and you have a culture to match.

    And your popular culture in films and music and dress is the popular culture of the world.

    All peoples want to develop their own culture but we must do it in the face of American global culture.

    I expect you to defend your own culture so why would you be surprised I defend mine.
    Yes, Victor--my post was a defense of Twinkies. And of Walmart. You read me so very well.

    May I add John Wayne Gacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to that esteemed list? I mean, everybody loves clowns, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Because we have no culture. You may not be saying it but we all know it. This is straight from the horse's mouth.
    Well no doubt it will come as a surprise to you to know we are drowning in your popular culture.

    In fact you have the most powerful popular culture in the world. And you have a high culture second to none.

    Unfortunately it is only profitable to export your popular culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    From memory I think it is 98% of films shown in Australia are not Australian, and almost all of them are American.

    We don't have a government sponsored Australian film industry.

    When our democratically elected government decided to start an Australian film industry, Jack Valenti declared it to be socialist, and gave it the kibosh.
    Alas, the last great Australian film was Picnic at Hanging Rock.

    Compared to a Western, how could he Lavender Hill Mob compete?

    In fact, the US produces significantly more excellent independent films than Europe. The sad truth is that Australians do not go to the cinema to watch Australian movies. Only foreigners do.

    So the Fosters ad is perfect. Famous the world over. Despised in Australia.


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