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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Which statistics?

    The Americal Psychological Association doesn't seem to share your view:

    Corporal Punishment

    Perhaps you can explain how assaulting a child is okay but doing the same to an adult is not?
    It isn't doing the same to an adult. It's just discipline. Simple discipline that works and that is why it is done throughout the ages. Why do traditionalists still do such things? Because it bloody works. I'm not talking about whether it's right. I'm talking about it's effectiveness. My opinion on the matter has not been stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Maybe it's the "lazy" (ie, uncreative) solution, but that doesn't mean it's ineffective...
    Quite right. It's almost certainly effective.

    Countries that have banned corporal punishment readily accept this, but do not accept that it is necessary, given non-violent alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Maybe it's the "lazy" (ie, uncreative) solution, but that doesn't mean it's ineffective...
    Granted, every child is different, but spanking can be ineffective. It can cause resentment, and negate a lot of the positives that the parent is doing. It is all individual, and it does (however that particular parent views success) seem to produce results with some children, and not in others.
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    See, the great thing about guilt is that if the kid ends up badly, they're not resentful but instead think it's their fault!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    See, the great thing about guilt is that if the kid ends up badly, they're not resentful but instead think it's their fault!
    Until they open their eyes later in life... Hopefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Simple discipline that works and that is why it is done throughout the ages. Why do traditionalists still do such things?
    Come, come - you disappoint me. Using fallacious reasoning will get you nowhere. Have a butchers at this:

    Appeal to tradition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky is BLUE! View Post
    The type that suddenly gets very irritated and who was spanked as a child, so during that frustrated state they don't really think straight, the old pattern from their own childhood emerges (they probably don't even acknowledge it at that moment) and they slap away.

    I feel like I'm a broken record but in my opinion, every type out there is capable of doing that, and able to justify it afterwards.

    My initial reaction to the question posed, however, was that the types that do value tradition might be more prone to actually justify this kind of behaviour if they consider spanking as something that has proven to be effective in the past. They see it as part of discipline and consider it as some "positive" reinforcement. But still, anyone is capable of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Until they open their eyes later in life... Hopefully.
    They won't. They're too ashamed to look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    They won't. They're too ashamed to look.
    There can be hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Granted, every child is different, but spanking can be ineffective. It can cause resentment, and negate a lot of the positives that the parent is doing. It is all individual, and it does (however that particular parent views success) seem to produce results with some children, and not in others.
    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Quite right. It's almost certainly effective.

    Countries that have banned corporal punishment readily accept this, but do not accept that it is necessary, given non-violent alternatives.
    Agreed x2. Spanking is not necessary, and it can be used in a detrimental way.

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