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    Spanking is still an extreme measure if it's something that is administered regularly. And it definitely shouldn't be encouraged. As I see it, physical discipline stems from either unwillingness or inability to discipline children verbally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tibby View Post
    I don't know about types but whatever type lacks skills to handle situations otherwise. It's an easy way to make kids to shut up, sure, but the crazy thing is it doesn't even work for how it's suppose to (which I guess is to learn what's right / wrong). I've seen a man go ABSOLUTELY desperate when he was forced to deal with a child in a conflict and emotionally charged situations and have absolutely no clue how to proceed (emotions and irrationality of it all). These exterior-wise "tough" people have literally cracked in front of me which is a very disheartening thing to watch. But they simply don't know what to do and when they're denied to do what they've been taught (who've had very disgusting parenting themselves, that really breaks my heart) and then they start crying because there's no way for them. Because they just don't know. And I don't really get it myself but some people also seem to want one simple solution and if even as many as one factor changes in another situation they're all clueless again, it's like everything should always work the same way, for different people, excatly in the same order. And how better to scare a child than with than a belt. Everyone hates getting hurt = the "best" possible solution with minimal effort.

    So perhaps also whatever is the lazy & uninterested / invested type?
    I think this was a broadly rude response.

    I think you are confusing child abuse with discipline or punishment. I don't advocate spanking, but I don't see it as inherently bad. Each child is different and has a different way of learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    So he just kind of laughed and said forget it. I googled it, and here's what it means when kids get "spanked"...

    real spankings - Google Search

    :ouch:

    This is why we have so many sick, violent, disgusting people in the world. They were raised by sick, violent, disgusting people.
    ...you had safe-search off didn't you? I doubt spanking would occur as you see in the pictures of what you searched. Spanking is not done to such levels. It's usually much more mild but strong enough so the children learn from their mistakes. I have a friend that used to get spanked when he was being naughty. He's fine. He''s not violent or cruel whatsoever. Nothing wrong with him and he still loves his parents while his parents love him.
    But I'm quite surprised you find it surprising. It was not so many years ago that teachers used to whack children with large wooden rulers just for getting a question wrong. It is no surprise that such old customs would still be used in different cultures and 3rd world countries today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky is BLUE! View Post
    Spanking is still an extreme measure if it's something that is administered regularly. And it definitely shouldn't be encouraged. As I see it, physical discipline stems from either unwillingness or inability to discipline children verbally.
    I find most forms of verbal punishment or discipline to be very cruel, as well, especially by parents who are not able to rationalize reasonably when they are upset.

    Like I said in above post, each child is different and has different needs.

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    I got spanked as a kid on a few occasions and i did not like it at all. On the other hand it worked and I was usually respectful around my parents, especially when I could see they were getting mad. Still do.

    I have a nephew who is a total brat and his Dad not only doesn't spank him but doesn't discipline him at all. I love the kid but his dad made him a total asshhole. I always try to leave when I see the kid around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I find most forms of verbal punishment or discipline to be very cruel, as well, especially by parents who are not able to rationalize reasonably when they are upset.

    Like I said in above post, each child is different and has different needs.
    Yes, definitely, I agree especially with the bolded part. It is about parents and their inability to deal with the situation adequately.

    But I still can't envision a child that is in "need" of spanking (that's not what you meant, jenocyde, I know that). Of course, each child is different and needs to be approached differently. But if things are already that bad that parents feel the need to resort to spanking, then there's already something that has been lacking for quite some time. And the blame is on the parents.

    Edit: By spanking I mean something that happens regularly, not a few slaps here and there. Parents using spanking as a method of discipline without considering any alternatives.
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    I am surprised no one has considered spanking sexual harassment yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky is BLUE! View Post
    Yes, definitely, I agree especially with the bolded part. It is about parents and their inability to deal with the situation adequately.

    But I still can't envision a child that is in "need" of spanking (that's not what you meant, jenocyde, I know that). Of course, each child is different and needs to be approached differently. But if things are already that bad that parents feel the need to resort to spanking, then there's already something that has been lacking for quite some time. And the blame is on the parents.
    True, and I know what you mean. But the word "spanking" has been so demonized lately. Swatting the hand of a 3 year old who keeps sticking her finger in a baby's eye is different than going to town on an 11 year old who was cursed with a differing opinion. Having an 8 year old boy escorted home by the police for stealing a bike is different than a kid who accidentally broke a lamp.

    I just urge each parent and caregiver to judge each situation and each child independently, for discipline and rewards alike. And I urge people to stop judging parents so harshly, also.

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    I don't see why people see spanking as okay but think making kids sleep in the garage/threatening to lock them out of the house/etc. is not okay punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    ...you had safe-search off didn't you?
    No. I don't approve of censorship.

    I doubt spanking would occur as you see in the pictures of what you searched. Spanking is not done to such levels. It's usually much more mild but strong enough so the children learn from their mistakes.
    That's correct, wide-o. Glad you got the point that a more appropriate link could've been used to illustrate the point. Like this one, for example:

    Let me google that for you

    I have a friend that used to get spanked when he was being naughty. He's fine. He''s not violent or cruel whatsoever. Nothing wrong with him and he still loves his parents while his parents love him.
    Well that's okay then. I know a girl who was badly raped and cut up with a knife, but she's alright now. By your logic rape with a knife is okay?

    It was not so many years ago that teachers used to whack children with large wooden rulers just for getting a question wrong.
    It wasn't that long ago little boys were put down chimneys. Exactly what is your point? That things have moved on? Good.

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