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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Only if I could be the brilliant kind of ESTP that leaps in blind with no idea what he's doing and comes out with a boatload of cash and a beautiful girl on his arm.

    Like Captain Kirk in the new Star Trek movie.
    Well, duh...the kind of ESTP that's good at everything and quick-thinking and wins races in a stickshift M3 while on a cellphone and shit.

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    Oh yes... there is the "External Te" method I'm trying to use, too...

    If you have a Te like mine, it pops up reminding you of chores at the moment you can't do them and keeps silent when it actually should remind you of them. I put a reminder in my mobile phone and let it ring when I need it.
    So on the train... "oh yes, I need to correct the score of that student in my notebook"... I put it for that evening at 5pm when I'm at home. My own Te keeps silent (or gets overruled by overly enthousiastic Ne who thinks of everything but that score ), but the mobile phone takes over the job.
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    ... this is so stupid

    A) ESTJs don't necessarily have their shit together any more than other types, in fact I find their ways to waste time on pointless crap but thats my personal opinion

    B) ENTPs are awesome

    C) You can't change your type

    D) If I hear once more that P = Unproductive I'm going to go mad

    Perceiving means we build up tasks and do them all at once, why? well obviously because deep down we see it as the right way to do it, for me personally it's so that I don't waste time completing a task only to find out an additional task 20mins later could of been knocked down at the same time in the same fashion and saved a lot of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post

    A) ESTJs don't necessarily have their shit together any more than other types, in fact I find their ways to waste time on pointless crap but thats my personal opinion

    B) ENTPs are awesome

    C) You can't change your type

    D) If I hear once more that P = Unproductive I'm going to go mad
    Mister, Ps are unproductive.


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    Tot he OP:

    Why the bleeding hell would you want to change from ENTP to ESTJ?
    Just reign yourself when it comes to immoral shit and drinking too much and you'll be fine

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    Heeeee! A chick called Mrcockburn.... yeah I can buy ExTP



    Oh yeah, and Pee = Unproductive.

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    I wrote a thing (still mostly in draft) sort of pertaining to the subject of an "unmotivated ExxP." It might help. Skip down to the second-to-last section if it's too boring for you

    Long story short: there are ways to make stuff interesting (or to otherwise play into your own unique set of motivations), because that's probably more of a motivator for someone like you. Play to your strengths. Work on your weaknesses, but don't fret too terribly over them. Seriously, it works.

    I'm kind of light on examples in what I wrote, so I might try to think of some others and post them.

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    There is also another possibility... The ESTJ revolution!



    (I think Ti wants to say it failed. Looks more like an ISTJ now...)
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    ESTJs are life's middle managers. Yeah, a few make it to the top, but I've seen many hit career plateaus after getting fast starts out of school.

    They tend to advance more in old industries, where there's little competition and the real challenge is managing a bureaucracy. In high-tech I've found they can be trend chasers, like hamsters trying to keep up with ENTx who create products, and SPs who sell and demonstrate them. An ESTJ I know who went to an elite school told me his career plans following a layoff, and I told him his plan would make great sense if it was still 1998.

    ESTP and ESFP I can understand, but I feel a lot of sympathy for the ESTJs I know. They don't want back office ISTJ jobs, but most that I've known haven't had the foresight to run a company in a competitive industry.

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    Ok i still dont get it
    WHY WHY WHY WHY????

    would you want to trade your N for a S

    O_O

    i mean come on if your a S then you wouldnt have abstract thinking anymore

    so why would you want to trade that for a S????

    i really dont get it at all

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