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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
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    A mensa member's impression is more reliable, but not proof by any means since it is only an impression
    Hi

    Sorry don't want to fule the fire, but I know a former UK member (someone who use to organise the meetings or along those lines)... and he agreed with the perspective thats expressed - in broad terms ... it's not a question that insecurity is the underlying constrauct obviously IQ is.... but people who have more rounded lives don't tend to join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Hi

    Sorry don't want to fule the fire, but I know a former UK member (someone who use to organise the meetings or along those lines)... and he agreed with the perspective thats expressed - in broad terms ... it's not a question that insecurity is the underlying constrauct obviously IQ is.... but people who have more rounded lives don't tend to join.
    As external validation goes, it is rather empty in that it is only redundant to a test score achieved, so it isn't an achievement on its own merits, but I don't think insecurity in a person means much in terms of achievement, so I wondered why it is being focused on. It does create a sort of reactive elitism that makes membership seem like there is something wrong with the person. I just find that sort of thing suspicious. Also judging someone as insecure is rather subjective and something I might not do even if surrounded by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Persumably it's a bunch of people lacking social skills trying to get laid and sitting around moaning about why people at work don't value their super human intellegence...smacks of bitter and twisted....
    Personally I didn't use insecure, I used the above phrases which are not fully verbatim from the person I know who ran a group but are pretty much the gist of it.

    It's not to say there are not well rounded capable people who attend, maybe you ought to go along and let us know your throughts.

    "Litvyak" wasn't exactly complimentaty - he did specifically refer to them trying to be "right all the time" which is exactly what was said by the person I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Personally I didn't use insecure, I used the above phrases which are not fully verbatim from the person I know who ran a group but are pretty much the gist of it.

    It's not to say there are not well rounded capable people who attend, maybe you ought to go along and let us know your throughts.

    "Litvyak" wasn't exactly complimentaty - he did specifically refer to them trying to be "right all the time" which is exactly what was said by the person I know
    I'm confused, I'm not a member, but surely there is a benefit to keeping such people in their own society to be left to deal with each other without causing offence and to allow them to grow the talents they value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    I'm confused, I'm not a member, but surely there is a benefit to keeping such people in their own society to be left to deal with each other without causing offence and to allow them to grow the talents they value?
    sweetie

    I never said they were offensive, I think they are pretty harmless in the main, nothing too siniser going on at all.

    I don't think society is better off with segregation myself, freedom to choose and all that... but I don't hold that specific society in high regards, it hold no interest for me (I'm more than happy with my smarts already, I don't need validation - I have qualifications that rank me as it is, I don't need a club to do that).

    I don't think segregation is going to help improve social skills, but it may get people out the house/socialisign where they would choose not too without it.

    Besides if I want people who lack social skill, need to be right all the time, out to get laid, and on the bitter and twisted side, I can get all that from my astrology group. - I can just hear the other people on this thread FREAKING at that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Care to explain the possible correlation between mensa membership and being an idiot?
    Uh... not really sure there is one, not was that the point I was trying to make.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post

    Besides if I want people who lack social skill, need to be right all the time, out to get laid, and on the bitter and twisted side, I can get all that from my astrology group. - I can just hear the other people on this thread FREAKING at that
    Wait, so yall be getting freaky in this astrology group? How can I join?

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    35 people thus far who qualify for Mensa. What are the chances?
    If you believe in the social principle that like people tend to attract each other, then the chances are pretty good. There are actually quite a few bright people on the forum.

    Also I totally agree with your point about the NT forums resembling a Mensa discussion (for good or for bad). I thought about joining Mensa myself, so I could find people who liked to discuss the things I'm interested in. Then I found out they charge membership fees, so I looked around and found this site instead. Perhaps this site appeals to other cheapskates like myself?
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    I should be a member as i am always being told i am special (needs) .. Oppsss.

    nahhh, not interested but i would like to take some official test just to see myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    I don't think segregation is going to help improve social skills, but it may get people out the house/socialisign where they would choose not too without it.
    I respect your opinion, but I think they are likely to be more comfortable with people who do not judge their own lack of social skills or choice of hobbies/activities as an issue.

    In my experience many prefer an environment where they can share with people they feel a kinship with until they mature and perhaps they gain friendships with those within and wish to stay around after the initial ?growth? period is passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    A mensa member's impression is more reliable, but not proof by any means since it is only an impression, and it doesn't address the group that has not joined who could be equally insecure (since that is a common human trait). Why is it so important that mensa members be insecure? What difference does that make? It doesn't change the test scores. It could lessen the sense of superiority and elitism associated with the group by people viewing it, but that only matters if it was ever perceived as such.
    I think Jaguar meant "insecure people are much more likely to join", he just didn't care about "political correctness".
    I personally didn't find it offensive or anything.

    Plus, my experiences confirm his idea. But who knows, it's not a rule. *shrug*
    As for the importance: I think the huge discrepancy between the group's self image and the members' lack of security is interesting. I'd go as far as drawing a line between these two. They (us) join like-minded people in building their (our) own little castle of sand without noticing how fragile it is. It is easier to hide from the truth in our collective quasi-hallucination.

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