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    Artisan Conquerer Halla74's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    I think it was something like higher life satisfaction or something.
    "higher life satisfaction?"

    Well, that clears everything up.

    I hate to nitpick, but I don't see the point in conducting a study that produces such vague results. Maybe I'm too much of a data-head. If I had defintions for each of the 4 criteria used as proxies for "happiness", and a table with a few thousand (random) observations of introverts and extroverts that is representative of the population at large, values for each of the four scores, and some summary statistics, I'd be bitching alot less.
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    ^^ wolfie... haha!! are you serious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    ^^ wolfie... haha!! are you serious!
    I am super-serious about being happy, young Lady_X.
    Also, I'm not Wolfy, but I do howl at the moon from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    I am super-serious about being happy, young Lady_X.
    Also, I'm not Wolfy, but I do howl at the moon from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    ^^ wolfie... haha!! are you serious!
    Of course, I am serious. *This is my serious face* Imagine if you had a little slip given to you when you were born. Check box A. Learn to poo poo. Check. Then as you check them off you got an internal feeling of happiness. The more you did, the more happy and content you became.

    If you want to measure happiness you are going to have to measure something and if the measure can't be measured what is there to measure?

    If you know you don't know then you know.

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    I think depressed extroverts mistyping themselves as introverts are making us look bad, tipping the scales.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if the study defined "happiness" so that it could be measured objectively?

    Subjective value judgements/statements are mercilessly predisposed to causing erroneous measure of anything associated with them.
    Well neuroscience can already measure happiness/pleasure objectively. It's just harder to do a major study that way, as opposed to having people check a box.

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    i hear ya halla and believe ya....calm down! haha i'm happy too...happy is a 7's default state isn't it?

    just thought it was funny wanting to turn an abstract emotion into something that can be measured with graphs or check boxes...haha...you super silly s's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Of course, I am serious. *This is my serious face* Imagine if you had a little slip given to you when you were born. Check box A. Learn to poo poo. Check. Then as you check them off you got an internal feeling of happiness. The more you did, the more happy and content you became.

    If you want to measure happiness you are going to have to measure something and if the measure can't be measured what is there to measure?

    If you know you don't know then you know.
    Exactly! Thank you for your commentary, Dr. Wolfy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I think depressed extroverts mistyping themselves as introverts are making us look bad, tipping the scales.
    I agree, they should be drawn and quartered.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Well neuroscience can already measure happiness/pleasure objectively. It's just harder to do a major study that way, as opposed to having people check a box.
    It is not necessary to open up people's brains and measure their neurological activity with electrodes to measure a subjective concept such as happiness in a reasonably objective manner. Happiness to some is laughter, to others an erection, whatever. Maybe I'm just way too practical, but studies like this appear to be unusable for anything constructive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i hear ya halla and believe ya....calm down! haha i'm happy too...happy is a 7's default state isn't it?
    I am calm, Sistah'! Ring 7w8 rules, no question about it, I'd never doubt it. If anything, 7w8s are happiness incarnate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    just thought it was funny wanting to turn an abstract emotion into something that can be measured with graphs or check boxes...haha...you super silly s's
    Yeah, OK, that's ESTP emotional retardation!

    I put everything into MS Excel, it holds up alot better in court than pictures of smilies or shards of poetry written on empty cigarrette box scraps. :yim_rolling_on_the_

    I have no patience for bullshit. If I call bullshit, and someone can't prove something, I'm done with whatever it is they are talking about. If you can't back it up then don't spit it out, ya' know? This is most likely a result of me being raised by an ESTJ Type-A hostile Army Colonel. Other than being a stickler for numbers and logical explanations I'm a hell of a nice guy.

    I'm totally not emotionally affected by any of this, I swear. I'm just nitpicking because I am bored and have no alcohol.
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    It should be quite clear from the original post that extroversion alone doesn't make a person happy. There were three other factors listed; so if an extrovert lacked in the other three areas they probably wouldn't be happy if the study is valid. On the other hand, an introvert can be quite happy if they are doing well in the other three areas. An extrovert would simply be more likely to be happy since they have one of the four areas already covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clonester View Post
    It should be quite clear from the original post that extroversion alone doesn't make a person happy. There were three other factors listed; so if an extrovert lacked in the other three areas they probably wouldn't be happy if the study is valid. On the other hand, an introvert can be quite happy if they are doing well in the other three areas. An extrovert would simply be more likely to be happy since they have one of the four areas already covered.
    But going by that logic still implies that introversion and happiness are not correlated, and that extroversion and happiness are. It seems like you are under the impression that extroversion is a "step in the right direction" so to speak while introversion is a regression on the road to happiness, and as I stated in my first post on this topic, that's not entirely the case...

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