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    Default Since Feeling is First (A Poem)

    A poem by E. E. Cunmmings that we analyzed in AP Comp. today.(YES, ANOTHER THREAD FROM AP COMP)

    since feeling is first
    e.e. cummings


    since feeling is first
    who pays any attention
    to the syntax of things
    will never wholly kiss you;

    wholly to be a fool
    while Spring is in the world

    my blood approves,
    and kisses are a far better fate
    than wisdom
    lady i swear by all flowers. Don't cry
    --the best gesture of my brain is less than
    your eyelids' flutter which says

    we are for eachother: then
    laugh, leaning back in my arms
    for life's not a paragraph

    And death i think is no parenthesis


    That is exactly how it is punctuated and placed.

    So, any interpretations? I don't need it, I've already spent time soaking it in and discussing it.

    Thought you'd all enjoy. I know the Fs will appreciate it as I do.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    This topic is offensive to T's.

    He portrays a life without the need for meaning. A meaningless existance.

    But I can see why f's would enjoy the poem.
    ~Self-depricating Megalomaniacal Superwolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    This topic is offensive to T's.

    He portrays a life without the need for meaning. A meaningless existance.

    But I can see why f's would enjoy the poem.
    I kind of got that impression, too. But he isn't implying that Ts aren't capable of this.

    I believe the dynamics of this poem go far beyond T vs. F, though.
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    I meant poem by the way, not topic. The topic isn't offensive. I'm positively confused irl and not fully focusing on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    I meant poem by the way, not topic. The topic isn't offensive. I'm positively confused irl and not fully focusing on the forum.
    Oh, yeah. well I was referring to the poem, too. The title of the poem is 'Since Feeling is First'.

    I had no intention in making that claim, by any means. But I know you probably know that, I was just stating the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    This topic is offensive to T's.
    He portrays a life without the need for meaning. A meaningless existance.
    What?

    Why do you say
    this --
    this thing?


    it's simply saying
    there is meaning
    in cues and signals of the interconnection
    between two people,
    meaning that needs no concrete articulation
    ...if it can be articulated
    at all.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What?

    Why do you say
    this --
    this thing?


    it's simply saying
    there is meaning
    in cues and signals of the interconnection
    between two people,
    meaning that needs no concrete articulation
    ...if it can be articulated
    at all.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    one of my favorite ee cummings poems:

    i carry your heart with me (i carry it in
    my heart) i am never without it (anywhere
    i go you go,my dear; and whatever is done
    by only me is your doing,my darling)

    i fear
    no fate(for you are my fate,my sweet)
    i want
    no world(for beautiful you are my world,my true)

    and its you are whatever a moon has always meant
    and whatever a sun will always sing is you
    here is the deepest secret nobody knows
    (here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
    and the sky of the sky of a tree called life;which grows
    higher than the soul can hope or mind can hide)
    and this is the wonder thats keeping the stars apart

    i carry your heart
    (i carry it in my heart)
    ... and yes, it makes sense if you read it carefully...
    but it's hard to explain it in simpler words.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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    We said that it was going to show how the power of love can surpass all order all rules i.e "the syntax of things" (the poem uses poor punctuation and capitalization). That death is not interrupted (parenthesis) and life is not a paragraph. There is no period at the end of the poem to represent how life can end whenever the time is right.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    one of my favorite ee cummings poems:



    ... and yes, it makes sense if you read it carefully...
    but it's hard to explain it in simpler words.
    I can't express the feeling that this poem provoked. Wow.

    thanks jennifer.
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