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    Question Hardest type to reason with?

    Everyone knows people who won't give in to you, no matter how much you try. You can be right, you can be wrong, but these people won't give in to you for some reason. You can batter these people for as long as you want, and they will not give in to what you throw at them.:steam:

    The question is, for all of you: Which type is the hardest for you to reason with, and why?

    I personally have little opinion, except for the unreasonable person being a J.

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    Depends on the subject.

    F's tend to have a hard time reasoning with T's and vice versa. Same as S/N.

    Usually though, if what you present in the first place is sound enough, no healthy type of any kinds should have much trouble reasoning with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Depends on the subject.

    F's tend to have a hard time reasoning with T's and vice versa. Same as S/N.

    Usually though, if what you present in the first place is sound enough, no healthy type of any kinds should have much trouble reasoning with you.
    If what you just said is true, then 75% of people at school are unhealthy. I don't want to go to a place like that, I'm afraid.
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    ENTJ, no question. I always try to come out on top of an ENTJ I know during a debate, but then it turns into an argument.

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    I thought of ENTJ, but of course the 'MORAL RIGHTEOUSNESS' thing of Fs is also a stonewall for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gewitter27 View Post
    If what you just said is true, then 75% of people at school are unhealthy. I don't want to go to a place like that, I'm afraid.
    Immature is close enough to being unhealthy.
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    ESFJs or ESTJs

    but I think it has to deal a great lot with the individual and the argument.
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    People who rely too much on Ni, they already "know" the answer well before they've started any reasoning themselves. Actually also Fe, hard to reason with you almost have to reason with the whole populace to get through to them.
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    ESFJ

    Once they get to a certain point, there is nothing more you can do, I've found.

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    Well, as an INTP, with ESFJ's. The ESFJ need to at the very least have a level of respect for you. And need to have had the time to get to know you.

    My sister is an ESFJ and I can very easily reason with her, for example. Because she knows me very well.

    But ESFJ's that don't know me are a bunch of stonewallers generally. :P
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