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    Default Brits! Give it to me straight, What's it like in the U.K?

    I'm pondering moving to the U.K, mostly as I'm having trouble finding a job here in OZ, and I have been assured there is plenty of work for me in the U.K. still. So in the name of research, I want to know what the general situation in the u.k. is? Your help and opinions would appreciated.
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    Before i give you my honest opinion. What is your profession? and where are you thinking of moving to in the UK?
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    Follow up questions:

    1. What field (in general)?
    2. I am assuming you mean London - if you don't, say so, cuz 'London' and 'the rest of the UK' can be quite different on a lot of levels.

    I am a half-assed UKer (haven't lived there for a few years but have on and off my whole life) but I'll try to give you some answers if it's a field I have any knowledge of.
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    Ha, Saslou, I hadnt seen your post before I posted - seems we asked exactly the same 2 questions.
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    Don't do it.
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    From the immigrant's point of view...

    Good points:
    1. Generally accepting population, not fazed by foreigners
    2. Lots of history and easy to travel to other European countries
    3. Decline in national school standards means it's getting easier for foreigners to get jobs as Brit kids are leaving school with no skills or relevant knowledge
    4. Lots of international communities so you're never the lone expat
    5. The food's got a hell of a lot better in the last 20 years and there's a great variety of very good food available
    6. Eccentricity isn't really a problem
    7. There are laws that prevent you from being mercilessly exploited by employers, and there is a legal minimum wage and depending on circumstances, there's a chance that if you fall on hard times and can't earn enough, the welfare system will top you up to enough income to live on until you get back on your feet (in theory)
    8. For EU citizens, there's free medical care

    Bad points:
    1. The weather (it's June and pissing down with rain outside; I have my heaters on)
    2. High cost of living
    3. Extremely high taxes
    4. Homes are very small, have very small gardens/outside spaces and have fewer facilities compared to what Americans are used to
    5. Traffic regulations are often bizarre and absurd
    6. Public transport is truly appalling
    7. Can be very difficult to make friends unless you are very gregarious and determined - people are extremely hesitant to talk to strangers and can seem rude and abrupt (especially in stores) compared to what Americans are often used to
    8. Although being foreign isn't a problem as much in the job market, if you want anything above minimum wage level you need quite a bit of education and experience unless you have some very good contacts to put in words for you
    9. The country tends towards OTT bureaucracy and red tape that can strangle and choke initiatives and enterprises before they begin

    Hmm... I can probably think of more on both good and bad sides, if I do I'll let you know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Don't do it.

    Agreed. I'm still trying to get out of this place lol.
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    The only place more stuffy and gray than the U.K. is inside Queen Elizabeth's snatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    Bad points:
    1. The weather (it's June and pissing down with rain outside; I have my heaters on)
    2. High cost of living
    3. Extremely high taxes
    4. Homes are very small, have very small gardens/outside spaces and have fewer facilities compared to what Americans are used to
    5. Traffic regulations are often bizarre and absurd
    6. Public transport is truly appalling
    7. Can be very difficult to make friends unless you are very gregarious and determined - people are extremely hesitant to talk to strangers and can seem rude and abrupt (especially in stores) compared to what Americans are often used to
    8. Although being foreign isn't a problem as much in the job market, if you want anything above minimum wage level you need quite a bit of education and experience unless you have some very good contacts to put in words for you
    9. The country tends towards OTT bureaucracy and red tape that can strangle and choke initiatives and enterprises before they begin

    Hmm... I can probably think of more on both good and bad sides, if I do I'll let you know!
    I cant believe i am going to try and justify this as i spent 5 years saving to get out of this hell hole. (my opinion anyway)

    1 - Weather, we have just had a mini heatwave. I am golden brown. Granted the weather is crap at the moment and i did earlier turn on the heating for 5 mins. It has stopped raining now though.

    No comments on 2 - 6.

    7 - I have the best conversations with strangers. I went to get some more RAM for my computer today and i waited whilst he sorted it all out for me. We were chatting away for a good 40 mins, never met him before in my life. I was talking to some stranger the other day in a shop about my tattoo on my wrist and what it meant. Recently i was in a pub waiting for a friend to come and for 55 mins i was talking to some stranger and no my friend didn't turn up.
    Yes there are some people who are so rude it isn't funny.
    I find on a whole though compared to Canada with their potentious stuck up lot, here you have all classes muddling together whereas over there its each to their own.

    8 - Thats why i asked about the profession. Getting a job here is not good at the moment. I am applying for everything and anything and they are not even writing to tell me i haven't made the interview process.

    9 - I am not going to go there with the red tape bureaucracy bullshit. All Politicians must die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post

    7 - I have the best conversations with strangers. I went to get some more RAM for my computer today and i waited whilst he sorted it all out for me. We were chatting away for a good 40 mins, never met him before in my life. I was talking to some stranger the other day in a shop about my tattoo on my wrist and what it meant. Recently i was in a pub waiting for a friend to come and for 55 mins i was talking to some stranger and no my friend didn't turn up.
    Maybe that is an esfj thing, my esfj friend talks to everyone, she is always stopping to talk to random strangers, shops, bus stops, pubs, outside the school. I think it's awesome and I envy the ease with which she handles these situations, but I'm not as good or as open to it as she is.

    I think another type, like the OP being an INFP, wouldn't find it as easy.
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