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    The Memes Justify the End EcK's Avatar
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    The youth of today ? Let's not insult the rest of us with hasty generalizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    The youth of today ? Let's not insult the rest of us with hasty generalizations.

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    you are obviously a grown folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    you are obviously a grown folk.
    I do have my adult moments.

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    While I can understand the backlash - the self righteousness in this thread is disgusting.
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    riiiiiight.
    Yeah...riiiiiiiight.

    And yeah, Sentura, Barberella and I were talking about the UK. And I too don't really understand why it's so hard to believe.
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    Re: the OP: Absolutely disgusting. They might not think they're being offensive, but they are. I'd definitely make it clear to them that it's disrespectful and that they might be running off girls that they would actually like to date by saying stuff like that. It's not that hard to use respectful language, no matter what your idiot friends are saying. I mean, HOLE? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    this is why i don't get feeling women. on one hand you want chivalry, but on the other you want equality. you can't have both. why is it only thinking women that understand this? i'm pretty sure that once people stop getting offended, we wouldn't have a problem with anyone being called anything, right?
    Chivalry, at worst, produces a Goddesses versus Whores complex, in which men regard women in general as exalted creatures unless a particular women does not conform to some social standard, in which case she becomes trash.

    Misogyny, as in this case, is when women IN GENERAL are dehumanized and degraded right from the start.

    As one who (for better or worse) was raised to some degree with chivalric norms, I have absolutely no problem seeing a distinction between the two.

    The terms used as examples in this thread remind me of an old saying: "Like a woman, a dog, and a walnut tree; the more you beat em', the better they be."

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    Misogyny, as in this case, is when women IN GENERAL are dehumanized and degraded right from the start.
    Misogyny Definition | Definition of Misogyny at Dictionary.com

    misogyny, by definition, states nothing about dehumanizing or degrading women; just hatred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    Misogyny Definition | Definition of Misogyny at Dictionary.com

    misogyny, by definition, states nothing about dehumanizing or degrading women; just hatred.
    Common usage says otherwise. In any event, what do "degrading" (technically, putting people on top of pedistals would be an example "dehumanizing") terms for women IN GENERAL have to do with chivalry? The people in my life most responsible for reinforcing chivalric norms (my mother and three older sisters) would be angered and ashamed if I habitually used terms like "hole" or "dirtz" in that context.

    Edit: So would my dad for that matter, though I think he regards chivalry as a load of crap that puts unfair burdens on the men in a relationship.
    Last edited by lowtech redneck; 05-31-2009 at 03:56 PM. Reason: self-evident

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    misogyny, by definition, states nothing about dehumanizing or degrading women; just hatred.
    Does it really have to use the specific words? Are you seriously unaware of the connection between hatred and dehumanizing/degrading treatment/behaviour? Come on, dude.
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