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    Default Can millions of years be wrong?

    I think so.
    But there's an ENTJ who doesn't.

    Discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    I think so.
    But there's an ENTJ who doesn't.

    Discuss.
    Huh?

    What did the millions of years say?

    Your post doesn't tell us what you're talking about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Huh?

    What did the millions of years say?

    Your post doesn't tell us what you're talking about...
    Use your Ne....Oh, that's right, you haven't got any. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Use your Ne....Oh, that's right, you haven't got any. :P
    I got the vague impression that it had something to do with evolution, but I couldn't infer what the ENTJ thought about it, what you did, or why.
    Where is Victor when you actually want him to talk shit?
    Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be here soon enough.

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    ^OK. It shouldn't really matter what either of us think. It's just an interesting question. Kinda.

    I think what the monster truck was saying is that since Pandas are on the edge of extinction, and crocs have been around a lot longer, and are still thriving, that makes them superior. You could turn that argument around and say that Pandas are more highly evolved, having had the benefit of more of evolution's time. They've become highly specialised, and habitat pressure has made them marginalised. In that sense, millions of years can be wrong.

    In fact, Time can be neither right nor wrong. It merely reveals truth, or error in design or execution. But truth isn't a constant, it's context-dependent. How much time has elapsed is part of that context. So time both creates and destroys truth. Like Schrodinger opening Pandora's box.

    I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

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    More .. highly.. evolved?

    are you sure you understand what evolution is actually about ?
    you use qualitative terms when evolution of species is about comparative quantities through time.



    I mean, even the OP manages to be off topic, that's like, a new whole new bread of paradox.

    Admit it, you've been reading absurdist novels of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    More .. highly.. evolved?
    Didn't you know Pandas are down along the same evolutionary branch as crocodiles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    More .. highly.. evolved?

    are you sure you understand what evolution is actually about ?
    you use qualitative terms when evolution of species is about comparative quantities through time.



    I mean, even the OP manages to be off topic, that's like, a new whole new bread of paradox.

    Admit it, you've been reading absurdist novels of late.
    I admit, I was being lazy and stupid. I learned how from you.

    You don't accept that the mammalian brain is more advanced than the reptilian one?
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    Yeah, fuck crocs. Warm-blooded > cold-blooded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    I admit, I was being lazy and stupid. I learned how from you.

    You don't accept that the mammalian brain is more advanced than the reptilian one?
    Hey, u were the one not making sense at all. It's an intx thing apparently.

    Appart from that, I'd advise against the use of terms such as advanced.

    Sure, as a feedback loop system between the environnement and the individual animal the human brain has more plasticity, ability to learn, retain information, metacognition and so on.

    But I don't see how it makes on thing righter than the other.

    the developement of a crocodile's brain is evolutionary limited by the way the jaw is strongly attached to the rest of the cranium, u'd need a huge evolutionary leap to get 'big brained lizards'. So when it comes to the brain developement, our friendly lizards might have hit a comparative dead end.

    And about cold blood vs warm blooded, both have advantages:

    cold blooded animals have slower metabolisms, are sensible to changes in their environnement but so are most creatures. And the hot seasons usually see a rise in the populations a crocos or whatever might hunt, and hot seasons will allow the croc to have an accelerated metabolism, this is quite a nice fit.
    Cold blooded creatures are usually pretty well adapted to their environement and won't be able to do migrations such as the one humanity made from africa to the ever colder europe.
    About that last point, while this transition to harder climats can be seen as good for the quick evolution of comparative advantages that lead to the modern man, this process was only made possible by a drastic lowering of life expectancy compared to a more stabler environnement.

    We warm blooded humans have to eat way more, and, for a warm blooded creature, who already has a basic cranium structure allowing more flexibility in the size of the brain, a 'smarter brain' could lead to better strategies to attain the needed high calory diet.
    Additionaly our caloric needs don't change through the year, and we need to stock energy as fat during the cold or less life welcoming seasons or suffer starvation and maybe die.
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