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    Self-righteous status quo slaves. Dinosauric perceptions of social culture, fed by outdated, insular quasi-religions.

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    Did anyone else find the phrase, "We have hope: a rainbow-colored coalition..." glaringly ironic?

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    That poor poor California doctor that's being forced to keep her kid in public school to be objected to the disgusting homosexuals--.. Oh wait.

    I'm going with Mi'Lady on this one, Christianity is about love, not oppression. People are missing the point when they go on crusades like this. It's about spreading through the word and through love, not at all about enforcing what they think is right with others.

    I've stated my opinion on here several times before.. I don't think Christian churches should be forced to permit gay marriages.. but I do think that they should have the freedom to decide whether it's right or not. I think gays should have legal rights to be the equal to Christian marriages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    Christianity is about love, not oppression.
    I wouldn't even call their platform a 'Christian' perspective.

    It's just blatant homophobia.

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    I love the storm effect in the background.

    Are these stuffs supposed to be viewed with the sound on and all?
    Not sure I could take all the overflowing emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    I love the storm effect in the background.
    That is pretty funny.

    Initially, I thought it was a convenient reference for implied association with Stormfront.org.

    In retrospect, I don't know how far-fetched the deductive leap was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    That is pretty funny.

    Initially, I thought it was a convenient reference for implied association with Stormfront.org.

    In retrospect, I don't know how far-fetched the deductive leap was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    ...I've stated my opinion on here several times before.. I don't think Christian churches should be forced to permit gay marriages.. but I do think that they should have the freedom to decide whether it's right or not. I think gays should have legal rights to be the equal to Christian marriages.
    hmmm....What about the gay Christians?

    I don't think denoms should be forced to approve marriages theologically if they don't want to... but I'm not sure why a particular religion has a strangehold over what "legal" marriage is. There should be state-approved relationships that are not controlled by religious preference, and then denomination-approved relationships pertaining to individual preferences of faith.

    In any case, the more whacked out this fight gets, hopefully the more that the average person will realize how skewed the more volatile reactions are. It gets worse before it self-corrects, but systems always self-correct (if they don't crash).
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    The issue is that religious people have a set of 'moral rules', and moral rules are supposed to be absolutes to the idealistic\traditionalistic mind.

    So I'm not sure they could take the schism between national and religious values, especially since the family is deeply rooted in both.

    They don't want gay mariage but there's no satisfying way out for them, if they support non-christian but civil marriage they'd give up a huge part of their socio cultural influence over the years. So, they feel threatened and counter attack.

    Which, I agree is quite pathetic, if very human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    hmmm....What about the gay Christians?

    I don't think denoms should be forced to approve marriages theologically if they don't want to... but I'm not sure why a particular religion has a strangehold over what "legal" marriage is. There should be state-approved relationships that are not controlled by religious preference, and then denomination-approved relationships pertaining to individual preferences of faith.

    In any case, the more whacked out this fight gets, hopefully the more that the average person will realize how skewed the more volatile reactions are. It gets worse before it self-corrects, but systems always self-correct (if they don't crash).

    Right on.

    I think you have to look at it from an objective civil rights stance- I don't care about what the theology is- they still share civil rights.

    Justice should be blind.

    It is like my husband says- nothing is more destructive then fear- because when you fear someone- you don't care about their well being and think only of your welfare often to the expense of the other person's welfare. I don't think God fears homosexuals and has perfect love that casts out all fear- and I don't think christians should fear them either.

    What is really strange to me is that I don't see how a gay couple getting married will do anything bad to me and my marriage. I do hear crazy things like God will punish America if we allow gay marriage-the wrath of God will come down- you know just like how Katrina was punishment for the gay community- it is nuts- it's like God has punished Amercia- he gave us idiots to live with like you,lol.I think God loves everyone- no exceptions- he has allowed america to let alcoholics, drug addicts, shot gun wedding participants to get married and hasn't destroyed us for that- why are homosexuals any less of a people- why are they singled out?

    Let he who is without sin walk down the aisle- see how many people are worthy to get married then.
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    I don't get why same sex marriages are so offensive, or why people are so emotionally invested in something that has nothing to do with them? How does it affect their personal freedom?
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