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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer
    Very simply, even children have the option not to buy such merchandise. There are so many factors that should be taken into consideration, so many that are not at all fault of the dealer. Like, I dunno, maybe the kid should have listened to his parents and the D.A.R.E. teacher encouraging him and his fellow pupils to "Say 'No' to drugs." And if the child didn't receive such encouragement from his parents, maybe it's the parents who should be blamed for such irresponsibility.
    I can understand both sides of that. On one hand, allowing drug dealers to operate would weed out some of the less intelligent people, and permit enterprising drug dealers to rise to the top. On the other hand, it might hurt traditional pharmaceutical companies by making it too hard for them to compete with street dealers, and then research into medicine might stop. Also, the main fear people have is that individuals who would have have been dumb enough to purchase drugs at younger ages might, if protected, eventually mature and contribute something to society. Can you see that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Well, all we'd have to do is bomb the FDA headquarters. Then we can do things my way.

    Furthermore, and slightly off-topic, why not just send a few jets to bomb Congress, the Supreme Court, and assassinate the president? I could then march in and burn the Constitution, the Amendments, and Declaration of Independence, and all that crap, and then the White House will be the only federal building standing. It will be powerless, but it will be my headquarters. I could then seize control of state laws and start my Fourth Reich!
    If I can help you out with that, would you will be willing to give me a place in the new order? (I think you should really be discussing this over an encrypted medium, though.)

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    And if the child didn't receive such encouragement from his parents, maybe it's the parents who should be blamed for such irresponsibility.
    So the parents are blamed after the event (i.e. after their child has become hooked). What does this achieve exactly?

    There are so many factors that should be taken into consideration, so many that are not at all fault of the dealer
    There are so many holes in your conclusion that I refuse to believe that you've actually considered this issue at all. Contrariness alone does not a good argument make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I'm having trouble syncing your libertarian economic views with fascist socialism and even more trouble figuring out how that would be better than what we've got now.
    It would be better because I would be in charge!

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    OP: Do you think children can make an informed opinion?

    P.S, you also show traits of a Sociopath!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    OP: Do you think children can make an informed opinion?

    P.S, you also show traits of a Sociopath!
    LOL as long as she is 6 she can make the decision to marry remember?

    I support the legalization of some drugs, but not all, so it would depend on what drug they were dealing.

    As it is most small time dealers become hooked on their own stash at one time or another and don't actually make any more money than it takes to just about keep themselves afloat.
    "No one can be free of the chains that surround them"

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    I don't think uberfurher's ideas were well thought out at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The major problem with your line of reasoning is that you are treating immature children as if they were adults. You are not taking into any amount of consideration whatsoever that maturation is a process.

    Kids are kids. They aren't adults. Their brains aren't developed. They're still learning. They don't have the experiences or context older teens or adults have. Maybe you happened to be precocious and could have done all of these things. If so, you are the exception, not the rule.

    It would also help if you had parental experience. Becoming a parent, having to interact with children as they develop, realizing what they are capable and NOT capable of, and having concern for someone else as a human being rather than just an autonomous "other" would probably give your thinking some necessary added depth. This sort of logic resembles what I'd expect someone who lives outside the world in their own little bubble to suggest.

    (Sorry if this sounds harsh. That isn't my point, I just don't feel like taking the time to velvet-cushion the whole thing... and why should I? I figure bluntness is good sometimes, especially in the face of something so misguided.)
    I don't know about you, but I don't think that an immature child should leave the sights of its parents or trusted guardian. So if the child is kidnapped by a pedophile, I would think it's the parent's fault for his/her irresponsibility. And when a child doesn't listen to its teachers or parents tell them to "Never talk to strangers," I would suspect the road trip with the pedophile will lead the child to think twice next time before accepting candy from a weirdo.

    I ask children to take a page from my book: Don't trust anyone. Trust only gets you killed faster.

    EDIT: Oh, and getting hooked on your own stash isn't a requirement to fit drug dealing credentials.

    And the fact that I live in my own little "bubble" is what gives me perspective.

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    And the fact that I live in my own little "bubble" is what gives me my perspective.
    Fixed. I'll work on the assumption that the rest of your post was a wind-up.
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    Fair enough. I just needed to ramble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    It would be better because I would be in charge!
    Better for who?
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