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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    as I said, it was only an impression (I don't claim to know a lot about it, but how it's presented in the media is Sx/So as hell)
    I remember sitting at that dinner table in northern France, having around 15 different forks and spons and cups used in different stations of the upcoming meal. And then, tho having the complex algorithm on how to proceed in the back of my head, I accidentally at one point took the wrong fork and was laughed at for that.

    I dunno, I have a mixed feeling about that. There are still a lot of rednecks in France with a hardcore right-wing core. in essence France aint too different from the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I remember sitting at that dinner table in northern France, having around 15 different forks and spons and cups used in different stations of the upcoming meal. And then, tho having the complex algorithm on how to proceed in the back of my head, I accidentally at one point took the wrong fork and was laughed at for that.
    I dunno, I have a mixed feeling about that. There are still a lot of rednecks in France with a hardcore right-wing core. in essence France aint too different from the US.
    are you saying all of France was like this, or just that particular area?
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    Perhaps the very rich (i.e. rentier) Parisiens live that kind of life, Elfboy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    are you saying all of France was like this, or just that particular area?
    Northern France is very conservative, while southern France are more composed of "modern" people. Paris is a wild mixture of all sorts of people. thats at least what my girlfriend says. Of course its totally dependant on the department or region you are in. Northern northern France, the department of nord-pas-du-calais are like the people of my region. Down-to-earth, social, festive and responsible. I get along there quite well with people. Some regions tho in France you cant go there as a german. They just wont talk to you or damage your car.

    Its as I said a very mixed feeling. Conservativism has been the one thing in France for years, that is reflected by the current government and politics as well. As long as you respect their traditions and such, you are fine, still its not easy for strangers to get into the inner circle to easily.

    I generally like the french very much, I just dont like this inherit conservatism and closed-offness they sometimes project to a stranger. I mean I have seen more americans in all my life than I have seen french and that tho I am living like 50 miles away from the french border.
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    If I go to France would I get laid?

    That's the only question I ask myself before traveling abroad.

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    i think france (well, paris) is quite conservative, in the sense that they wouldn't be a crazy, up for exploring, 7. they care about presentation, about manners, they are proud. there is certainly a lot of J there. i also think its more introverted than extroverted. and definitely NF. so.....INFJ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    when I think France, I think classy romance one night followed by intense partying the next and people who just take life as it comes and don't plan a lot for the future. so my impression is very much Sx/So (though perhaps 7w6 as opposed to 4w3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    i think france (well, paris) is quite conservative, in the sense that they wouldn't be a crazy, up for exploring, 7. they care about presentation, about manners, they are proud. there is certainly a lot of J there. i also think its more introverted than extroverted. and definitely NF. so.....INFJ?
    based on this, INFJ 3w4 Sp/Sx maybe?
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    Singapore: Si-ESTj 6w5/3w2 sp/so

    me: Beta something 8w7 sx/so

    As you can see, the Beta vs. Delta divide is quite stark.
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    For the united states I think you can break things down on multiple levels:

    US as a whole: esxj.
    Govt = estj

    Working poor: isxj
    Middle class: esxj
    White collar: inxj
    Corporate world: enxj

    South: esxj
    Mid-west: isxj
    East coast: ??
    West coast: nf

    Democrat: nfs + nps + sp/j only if part of minority group
    Republican: sjs + ntj libretarians/economic conservative

    I am from LA so I feel most comfortable talking about LA/california which imo has a very enfpish culture though the vast majority of people living here are NOT enfp

    La racially I would say:

    Black: esfp, estp, isfj, istp

    White: nf for women, nt for men upper class e > i, j > p (note: la county ONLY lots of white rednecks in antelope valley, san bernardino, etc)

    Asian:
    Chinese: isxj
    Korean: esfj, estj, isfp, istp
    Vietnamese: istj

    Hispanic:
    Generally esfjish

    Mexican: estj, esfj, isfp

    Armenian:

    Estp for men esfp/isfj for women

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    why goddamn why is the corporate world ALWAYS identified as ENTj. That's just the perpertation of a self-fulfilling stereotype. intuition? initiative? innovation? where does these 3 things stand in relation to the corporate world?
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