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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Did you even think about those values, or did you just list what you think you should value based on what other people expect of you?

    Now I know what they mean by inferior Fe. I hope you use Ti instead where you can... I doubt your feelings would serve you very well if you honestly value all those things equally.
    I know that this was directed at ygolo but I have to say WHA??

    You're saying he doesn't really value those things? You think he's just saying that because that's what others expect and it's because of his inferior Fe?



    What DO you think he values then?

    My $.02 = Until Ygolo actually responds I'm inclined to think that he really does value all of those things.
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    So my ego's life task is to reconcile attention, sex and food with empathy, creativity and presence.

    Do you have any tips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Cooking school and wear a sexy apron.
    lol
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    Ah dear Heart, what a perfect recipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Did you even think about those values, or did you just list what you think you should value based on what other people expect of you?

    Now I know what they mean by inferior Fe. I hope you use Ti instead where you can... I doubt your feelings would serve you very well if you honestly value all those things equally.
    I value those things, perhaps not equally. But I do value them.

    Truth and Love were capitalized for the fact that they eclipse all the rest. The other ones I listed after were kinda second tier.

    Other things like peace, harmony, industriousness, and courage, I value also, but less than the ones I listed.

    My Fi is strong enough. Hehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    But the problem is that some values reinforce other values and some values conflict with other values.

    So how do we deal with conflicting values?

    Perhaps values are not the last word.
    Yes. That's why I prioritize and systemize the values. The system is a way of resolving conflicting values. My value system is actually quite intricate. But I'd rather not go into the details at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    I know that this was directed at ygolo but I have to say WHA??

    You're saying he doesn't really value those things? You think he's just saying that because that's what others expect and it's because of his inferior Fe?



    What DO you think he values then?

    My $.02 = Until Ygolo actually responds I'm inclined to think that he really does value all of those things.
    That's OK. I understand Athenian200's suspicions, since I listed so many values.

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