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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    Me and him after prayer, decided to get some burgers we, were eating them and I left a bit and he told me I should eat that. And it was burnt chips am like they are burnt and guess what he says to me this is what he says to me "oh you shouldn't leave any food for the devil to eat, as soon as the devil touches this tray to eat the food it will have a soul and it will curse you, because when the devil touches the tray it feels pain." and I was just there sitting thinking, wow I can't even pretend to start telling myself thats true. It's illogical. And thats part of Islam, people actually believe that. And he expects things like that convince me Islam is the truth. Things like that put me off, which are totally illogical.
    Yes, those sort of odd bits of folklore have been attached to religious doctrines for a long time. For example:

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    The expression is ...found in Jewish custom. Although not technically part of Jewish Law (Halacha), the custom of saying gezuntheit, tzu gezunt, labree'ut, or God bless you is considered a mannerly custom. It is written in the Talmud that the patriarch Jacob was the first person to become ill before passing on. Before that, people would sneeze and die. When God infused the soul into Man, He "blew it" into Adam's nostrils. Thus, when it came time for the soul to be returned to its Maker, it would leave through the same portal it arrived.
    It sounds ridiculous to us, but to people steeped in certain beliefs without much technical understanding of what they were saying, it sounded plausible, I suppose.

    If it was me, I would have said eat all your food, because some humans are starving and we shouldn't waste food. That would actually make more sense then that whole devil nonsense.
    True. Well, what you go through is not much different than the struggles people have in other religions. I always got tired after some time of hearing that Satan (the devil) was hiding behind every little bush and flower and tree, waiting to mislead and take over any Christian who was not keeping up with their prayers and disciplines and keeping attached to God. Honestly, often people just do the wrong thing because they are ... human.

    You do make a comment in your last post that I have thought too -- namely, "Although there is no proof, is their interpretation wrong?" I can't show that demons won't eat your crispy black crunchy little potato chips... but that doesn't mean there isn't one. (I think Descartes explored this idea.)

    It's simply that, if I have to pick the "best" answer, I simply cannot in good conscience endorse or live according to that sort of interpretation of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    Most Muslims think like that. They think its normal to think things like this are possible.

    Maybe I'm wrong, and theres perfectly logical explanation maybe there is something we can't see.
    I guess I'm strange as an INFP that I'd like to take a look at the source on that too. My problem is when I do have a source I forget the details on where exactly it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    I guess I'm strange as an INFP that I'd like to take a look at the source on that too. My problem is when I do have a source I forget the details on where exactly it is.
    I get past that by filing them in specific folders on my pc, that way I can refer to it whenever I need to, and back it up with proper sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahara View Post
    I get past that by filing them in specific folders on my pc, that way I can refer to it whenever I need to, and back it up with proper sources.
    Most of my sources are non electronic and I'm not on the same computer when it comes to my electronic ones. Honestly, I also refuse to cart a library and a desktop on my back while out wandering the city.
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    I scored 54+ and I answered honestly. But who on earth takes these stupid surveys seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I scored 54+ and I answered honestly. But who on earth takes these stupid surveys seriously?
    Actually, am OK now. But I was seriously depressed then. Am starting to feel some sense of normality as I've very much cut down on my drinking. Well OK maybe I haven't cut down very much. I just drink expansive shit now, which doesn't give me depression.

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    I took that test based on how I feel right now and I got a 12. I took it trying to answer based on how I feel during the school year, and I got 40. That kind of does make sense... I do feel a lot worse on and off throughout the school year, and I generally feel much better during summer because I have more freedom and more... room to grow, but I still think that test is kind of silly.... its just to vague to deal with somethign that probably has a lot of specific qualities liek depression.

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