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    I scored a 76 and was graded a free thinker, but man...some of those questions are LOUSY. Like, "There is no cure for cancer. T/F?" Well, what kind of cancer? There's THOUSANDS of different kinds of cancer, and some of them are quite curable...others, not so much.

    And what do you mean by cure, exactly? Remission for the rest of your life? If you get cancer again, were you cured before and this is a new case, or is it a flare-up of the old cancer coming back? Not enough info.

    Oh, and one of the sources cited was a Wikipedia article. ERRRRNK. Sorry, you lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon67 View Post
    Oh, and one of the sources cited was a Wikipedia article. ERRRRNK. Sorry, you lose.
    Information snob.

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    ROFL! The whole reason the website existed was to punch holes in the "everybody knows" zietgeist...as in "EVERYBODY KNOWS we dropped the bomb on Japan to save the lives that would have been lost in an invasion!"

    And then they turn right around and appeal to an information source entirely based on the "everybody knows" phenomenon.

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    But I probably only knew about 2/3 of them. Years of multiple-choice tests in school taught me that whenever the words "always" or "all" are used, it's false.

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    98













    Or was it 94?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon67 View Post
    ROFL! The whole reason the website existed was to punch holes in the "everybody knows" zietgeist...as in "EVERYBODY KNOWS we dropped the bomb on Japan to save the lives that would have been lost in an invasion!"

    And then they turn right around and appeal to an information source entirely based on the "everybody knows" phenomenon.
    The Hiroshima bit is roughly correct. The reports produced before the dropping of the atomic weapons stated ~20,000 up to ~46,000 american casualties (from memory). The reports using moral equivalence (~250,000 american casualties and ~1,000,000 american casualties) were produced after. The reports on the attempted surrender of Japan are confirmed by Russian and UK reports, along with the diaries of several individuals from that time, including many of the US military leaders at the time.

    However, there are clear errors elsewhere in the answers - the hydrogen bit was stated as an absolute when the first feasibility research has started (but was phrased in a way that could allow "water" to be put of gas hydrates)... and the bit about cancer irritated me, cause there is only one type of cancer, for which aboriginals have a single cure for!

    That test is about as free thinking as one can get, if you only use the definition of "free from dogma" and ignore the "reasoned thought" bit of it.

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    I wasn't criticizing the entry on Hiroshima per se...I was citing it as an example. The test seems all about whether you can tell what they call "truth" from "common knowledge," and then in defense of their "truth" they cite an article from a website entirely built around the notion of capturing common knowledge.

    It's a conceptual thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon67 View Post
    I wasn't criticizing the entry on Hiroshima per se...I was citing it as an example. The test seems all about whether you can tell what they call "truth" from "common knowledge," and then in defense of their "truth" they cite an article from a website entirely built around the notion of capturing common knowledge.

    It's a conceptual thing.
    Fair enough I only spotted the errors of things I've previously looked at... The test itself is pretty... how do you say... easy to answer if you give the answer they are obviously looking for. Anyone who is up to date with the "conspiracy" theories currently in the mainstream could get in the 90s. As for actual accuracy... not that impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon67 View Post
    I wasn't criticizing the entry on Hiroshima per se...I was citing it as an example. The test seems all about whether you can tell what they call "truth" from "common knowledge," and then in defense of their "truth" they cite an article from a website entirely built around the notion of capturing common knowledge.

    It's a conceptual thing.
    Don't be sad. Just read better books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Fair enough I only spotted the errors of things I've previously looked at... The test itself is pretty... how do you say... easy to answer if you give the answer they are obviously looking for. Anyone who is up to date with the "conspiracy" theories currently in the mainstream could get in the 90s. As for actual accuracy... not that impressed.
    Sigh. I miss FranG.

    (I bet he would have gotten 110% on this test.)
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