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    You can stop male bullying by simply standing up to the bully.

    But if you stand up to female emotional group bullying, it only make it worse.

    The advantage of female bullying is its deniability.
    Quite so. But with current feminization of society, as you mentioned, do you find that some "men" now shamelessly participate in this feminine type of bullying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Men bully emotionally. It's usually just the threat of violence or submission.
    Sure.

    But the difference is that women practise group bullying from a very early age.

    My eyes were opened by reading, "Odd Girl Out", by Rachel Simmons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    God, you're cynical. What happened?
    I was mugged by reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Sure.

    But the difference is that women practise group bullying from a very early age.

    My eyes were opened by reading, "Odd Girl Out", by Rachel Simmons.
    Most bullying requires this social dimension of public humiliation, ergo it's all likely to be group bullying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I was mugged by reality.
    Come into the light. Sometimes people just cry because they have emotions rather than motives, yes, even women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InaF3157 View Post
    Quite so. But with current feminization of society, as you mentioned, do you find that some "men" now shamelessly participate in this feminine type of bullying?
    I think men want to be good so they try to be more feminine. I don't think they succeed.

    I still think it remains true that boys and men bully physically on an individual basis.

    While girls and women bully emotionally on a group basis.

    A good father can teach his son to box and stand up to the physical bully.

    But how can a good mother teach her daughter to deal with emotional group bullying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I like to be admired, not manipulated.
    Just like you.
    Are you admiring me or manipulating me?

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    And quite often a woman's tears are emotional bullying.

    And these tears give a double message - the first is, comfort me - and the second is, I am going to emotionally hurt you.

    No wonder the man is confused and doesn't know what to do, so quite reasonably, he asks her not to cry.
    This seems like a limited interpretation of the scenario.
    You sound like you badly got hurt by a woman in your life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I think men want to be good so they try to be more feminine. I don't think they succeed.

    I still think it remains true that boys and men bully physically on an individual basis. While girls and women bully emotionally on a group basis.

    A good father can teach his son to box and stand up to the physical bully. But how can a good mother teach her daughter to deal with emotional group bullying?
    Um... by being an example to her of what a noble, graceful, elegant woman is supposed to be like? By exhibiting grace and dignity in her personal relationships? By refusing to indulge in emotional power plays and base manipulation of others? By helping those around her be strong? By not letting others abuse and debase her? Having self-respect while showing grace to others?

    There are decent women out there, just like there are decent men.

    Getting back to topic: Is there really a difference between men and women, then, in being raised to be a strong representative of their particular gender? A difference in the raising? In which parent can teach what?

    What does a man have, what is a man raised to be that a woman is not, if anything?
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    hmm....I've never told a girl not to cry. I usually just end up crying with them. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Come into the light. Sometimes people just cry because they have emotions rather than motives, yes, even women.
    E-motion is simply the motive for movement.

    Emotion is exquisitely attuned to our environment.

    Each emotion has its reasons.

    And each emotion propels us into action.

    Emotion motivates us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I think men want to be good so they try to be more feminine. I don't think they succeed.

    I still think it remains true that boys and men bully physically on an individual basis.

    While girls and women bully emotionally on a group basis.

    A good father can teach his son to box and stand up to the physical bully.

    But how can a good mother teach her daughter to deal with emotional group bullying?
    Ah there's plenty of ultra-feminine group bullying among men these days. They have succeeded in that at least, even if they fail in many other feminine efforts. If this seems untrue where you are, I need to move there!
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