The Gun Appreciation Thread - Page 23

Snoopy22 · 01-01-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralus

I've been thinking about getting either a Winchester 1300 Defender or a Remington Express 870. I'm gonna need something to protect all the gold and silver I'm stockpiling for when the dollar collapses.

Do not forget, bullets are their own currency.

Snoopy22 · 01-05-2009, 03:02 AM

046.jpg

Daisy VL 22 Rifle...
Years Produced late1967-1969
Description: It was especially designed rifle which exclusively utilized a unique, caseless ammunition, forming a completely integrated firearm-ammo combination of its own. Jules Van Langenhoven was the Belgian petro-chemist who invented the system. The velocity was 1150 feet per second.

It also has abysmal accuracy, most likely due to its caseless ammo, getting a caseless powder charge consistent in an manufacturing setting is beyond most systems. I believe the BATF halted production of this rifle due to Daisy not having a license to make guns other then air rifles.
Finding ammo is impossible, and when I e-mailed Daisy if the had the recipe for this ammo, they acted like I was a freak'e survivalist, maybe I am.

First attachment I have tried, it may be a bit small.

millerm277 · 01-05-2009, 03:14 AM

@snoopy22, I make zero guarantees as to the validity of this website, but...

Daisy V/L .22 Caseless Ammunition 100rds - $12.00 : Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus.

Also, last post on this page: DaisyTalk: Can I shoot .22 airpellets in a Daisy VL?

Xander · 01-06-2009, 12:15 AM

Caseless??? H&K G11 FTW!!

3 round burst with the third round leaving the barrel before the recoil of the first round is felt. An approximated rate of fire equivalent to 2,000rpm!!

Snoopy22 · 01-06-2009, 02:11 AM

I did not hear of this gun ever going into production, I could be mistaken.

Jack Flak · 01-06-2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopy22

I did not hear of this gun ever going into production, I could be mistaken.

I don't believe it did. I'm only 95% sure of that.

Militaries are notoriously old fashioned, and have so far stuck with 60s tech in infantry weapons.

Xander · 01-06-2009, 11:43 AM

I doubt they even really tried it.

Same deal with the Glock. It worked better and totally owned the Beretta and yet they chose the Beretta anyway...

I guess they thought it was better than a smack in the face... I heard one marine disagreed though.....

d@v3 · 01-06-2009, 04:01 PM

Ahhh.. guns are a work of art! I have gun fever BAD! If I was rich I would get every gun I could get my hands on!

The best shot I took was with my Springfield Model 700 (30-.06) it was nighttime and a coyote was hauling ass down a field about 300yrds my friend hit him with a spotlight and I took the shot off-hand. It dropped him lol. That is truly one of the most accurate guns I own.

I went duck hunting last week and took out a few ducks with my A390ST.

The thing I have been trying to figure out is how to master the art of black powder. I just can't seem to get an accurate shot off! I don't think it's the loads, I have double checked the measurement (I shoot 120 grains)... The scope is sighted in too, I just bought it a couple months ago! Hmmm... does anyone else shoot muzzleloader?

I plan on getting a new handgun come July.

Jack Flak · 01-06-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d@v3

The thing I have been trying to figure out is how to master the art of black powder. I just can't seem to get an accurate shot off! I don't think it's the loads, I have double checked the measurement (I shoot 120 grains)... The scope is sighted in too, I just bought it a couple months ago! Hmmm... does anyone else shoot muzzleloader?

Smoothbore? If so, it'll never be accurate.

d@v3 · 01-06-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Flak

Smoothbore? If so, it'll never be accurate.

Nope, rifled.

01-05-2009, 03:14 AM	#223 (permalink)
millerm277 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Type: ISTP Location: NJ Posts: 808	@snoopy22, I make zero guarantees as to the validity of this website, but... Daisy V/L .22 Caseless Ammunition 100rds - $12.00 : Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus. Also, last post on this page: DaisyTalk: Can I shoot .22 airpellets in a Daisy VL? __________________ I-95%, S-84%, T-89%, P-84%

01-06-2009, 12:15 AM	#224 (permalink)
Xander Pretty Vacant Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: INTP Location: Coventry, England Posts: 3,331	Caseless??? H&K G11 FTW!! 3 round burst with the third round leaving the barrel before the recoil of the first round is felt. An approximated rate of fire equivalent to 2,000rpm!! __________________ INTP 9. A new breed of hero. Every man is like every other man, like some other men, like no other men. Mary McCaulley A diplomat... is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you actually look forward to the trip. - Caskie Stinnett All is denial, projection and avoidance.

01-06-2009, 11:43 AM	#227 (permalink)
Xander Pretty Vacant Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: INTP Location: Coventry, England Posts: 3,331	I doubt they even really tried it. Same deal with the Glock. It worked better and totally owned the Beretta and yet they chose the Beretta anyway... I guess they thought it was better than a smack in the face... I heard one marine disagreed though..... __________________ INTP 9. A new breed of hero. Every man is like every other man, like some other men, like no other men. Mary McCaulley A diplomat... is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you actually look forward to the trip. - Caskie Stinnett All is denial, projection and avoidance.

01-06-2009, 04:01 PM	#228 (permalink)
d@v3 Perfect Gentleman! :D Join Date: Nov 2008 Type: ISTJ Location: New York Posts: 1,802	Ahhh.. guns are a work of art! I have gun fever BAD! If I was rich I would get every gun I could get my hands on! The best shot I took was with my Springfield Model 700 (30-.06) it was nighttime and a coyote was hauling ass down a field about 300yrds my friend hit him with a spotlight and I took the shot off-hand. It dropped him lol. That is truly one of the most accurate guns I own. I went duck hunting last week and took out a few ducks with my A390ST. The thing I have been trying to figure out is how to master the art of black powder. I just can't seem to get an accurate shot off! I don't think it's the loads, I have double checked the measurement (I shoot 120 grains)... The scope is sighted in too, I just bought it a couple months ago! Hmmm... does anyone else shoot muzzleloader? I plan on getting a new handgun come July. __________________ Freedom Isn't Free.

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01-05-2009, 03:02 AM	#222 (permalink)
Snoopy22 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Type: INTJ Location: United States Posts: 31	046.jpg Daisy VL 22 Rifle... Years Produced late1967-1969 Description: It was especially designed rifle which exclusively utilized a unique, caseless ammunition, forming a completely integrated firearm-ammo combination of its own. Jules Van Langenhoven was the Belgian petro-chemist who invented the system. The velocity was 1150 feet per second. It also has abysmal accuracy, most likely due to its caseless ammo, getting a caseless powder charge consistent in an manufacturing setting is beyond most systems. I believe the BATF halted production of this rifle due to Daisy not having a license to make guns other then air rifles. Finding ammo is impossible, and when I e-mailed Daisy if the had the recipe for this ammo, they acted like I was a freak'e survivalist, maybe I am. First attachment I have tried, it may be a bit small.

01-06-2009, 02:11 AM	#225 (permalink)
Snoopy22 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Type: INTJ Location: United States Posts: 31	I did not hear of this gun ever going into production, I could be mistaken.

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