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Old 10-11-2008, 04:37 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Now that's a conflict I can relate too!
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:42 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I've been thinking about this and your previous question.
I've found thinking about it this way helps:

I learn. If you invest your ego that way nobody can take that away not even you. Even if you screw up you learn. So think I am a learner.

Keep fluid. Do things because you like to. Objective standards in performance have there place. But always think I do this because I like to. Nobody can say what you do and don't like. Only you can.

I am responsible. Responsibility looks forward blame looks back. So taking responsibility means to me keeping my eye on the objective and being fluid in approach. The balls in my end of the court so to speak.

In MBTI jargon.
Invest in values you control. Fi. Subjective values.
Be fluid in your approach to the world. Se.

Hope that makes sense.

It certainly does! Thanks for sharing.. Whenever I feel tempted to compare myself with others (which is constantly), it helps to tell myself that there really are no impossible, set-in-stone standards that have to be met in order for ME to feel happy about my own work -- unless I choose to sabotage my own happiness by making up those impossible standards.

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Old 10-12-2008, 04:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Reading the downisdes of ISFP, i recognized some of my downsides... afterwards i ve read more information about and I also seemed to have many things in common with the ISFP type even though i consider myself still a NT.
I must add that I m acutally a strong Introvert and Perciever but my intuition and thinking judgment is really balanced, so no wonder. So are many ISFPs are also Ennegram 4 type... what do you think?
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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So are many ISFPs are also Ennegram 4 type... what do you think?
I don't know, but so far I haven't seen anything that makes me "Ennegram" isn't just bunk.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:24 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Reading the downisdes of ISFP, i recognized some of my downsides... afterwards i ve read more information about and I also seemed to have many things in common with the ISFP type even though i consider myself still a NT.
I must add that I m acutally a strong Introvert and Perciever but my intuition and thinking judgment is really balanced, so no wonder. So are many ISFPs are also Ennegram 4 type... what do you think?

This is timely.. I was just reading about enneagram types yesterday, and came to the conclusion that type 4 fits most of my lifelong issues -- coveting other people for what I think they have and I lack, or trying to spice up my life by creating high-impact emotional states instead of just living with my real feelings and trying to be considerate of others' as well. I have no doubt this is the reason why a couple of my love relationships when I was in my 20s failed, and that this is what one guy meant when he said that I was self-absorbed (the other was too "nice" at the time to say what was wrong, but I figured it out years later). I missed out on taking advantage of opportunities I could have enjoyed because I kept feeling I was lacking something necessary in order to be able to take advantage of them, or feeling I was wasn't predestined to have those experiences and enjoy them. Whever I did get what I wanted, I was haunted with the fear that maybe I just got lucky and that I didn't deserve that success.

At any rate, awareness is good, and it's helped me realize how happiness is a choice, and that I can choose to either nurture it or sabotage it.

One quote that's stuck with me for a while now and which really helps to center me is: "It's a sign of maturity when you begin to fall out of love with your own drama."

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Old 12-07-2008, 07:07 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Thanks a lot, everyone. I like this thread. I've had to deal with most of the negative things mentioned here.
I'll try to contribute something sometime later.
Oh, and about Enneagram...It was helpful for me. Main thing I got from it was what wolfy's signature says I was confused about my type there too. Both 4 and 9 seem to fit ok, but I think I'm a 9.
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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haha...Awesome. Definitely can relate.
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:02 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Wow that sums up my weaknesses right there. I always tend to sell myself short when I do something well. I think I tend to be overlooked aswell especially now with my new job I work remotely for a Large IT company so when I go to the office for training or something a lot of my co workers go up and chat with my project specialists and managers but I don't. I tend to do my own thing. I love being an ISFP but there are some things I could work on!

As far as Enneagram types I am a type 9

Oh and has anyone heard of Breathe Me By Sia? You should watch it I think it has strong Fi traits YouTube - Sia - Breathe Me
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JRT, ahhh, I love that song! I hadn't heard it before.
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haha...Awesome. Definitely can relate.

I hate how the buckcherry and shania twain songs are playing over and over in my head. It is a constant battle of who can be louder and play more often . Its total conflict all the time.
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