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Old 06-24-2007, 01:25 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I don't know, but I could give you my results from Understanding the Eight Jungian Cognitive Processes / Eight Functions Attitudes , just to give you an idea anyway:

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************* (25.3)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ************************ (24.2)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.5)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************** (38.3)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************** (34.5)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************ (36.7)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.1)
average use
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:28 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I don't know, but I could give you my results from Understanding the Eight Jungian Cognitive Processes / Eight Functions Attitudes , just to give you an idea anyway:

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************* (25.3)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ************************ (24.2)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.5)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************** (38.3)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************** (34.5)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************ (36.7)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.1)
average use
That is probably the best personality assessment on the Internet.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:32 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Actually, a lot of people end up with these processes mixed up in an order that doesn't seem to suggest any of the 16 types exactly.

I took that test a while ago and ended up with Ti first, Ne second, Si third and Fe last, and that definitely suggests INTP.
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Why not just explain Si, Se, Ni and Ne in an easy fashion?

Sensing is either living in the moment (Se) or the moment generating visions of the past (Si).

Intuiting is either the moment generating ideas of possibilities (Ne) or visions of the future (Ni).

(You guys can probably give better definitions, but method and not definitions are the point here. On the other hand, listening to an INTJ about how to explain things, especially this one, might in general be a bad idea.)

Then one might say sensors tend to me concrete, intuitives abstract. Sensors tend to focus on details, intuitives on the big picture and so on.

But really it is not strange it is hard to explain intuiting and sensing, since they both consist of two concepts. How do you explain two concepts as one? That's kind of artificial, isn't it?
The way I see it is that both Si and Ni look to the past, but for different reasons. I think that "generating visions of the future" sounds too "supernatural" for purposes of personality assessment. I think Ni is more like reviewing past experiences to generate ideas and possibilities.

Ni is also abstraction directed inward, and so it is the function that desires intellectual stimulation. Ne is abstraction directed outward, and so it's the expression of ideas -- making it the function of creative imagination.

NOTE: Creativity is really not related to imagination or Intuition, when you think about it. I believe that it's any of the Extraverted functions that are creative, because creativity is directed in the outer world.

This site sums up the functions in a way that I am quite fond of.
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The way I see it is that both Si and Ni look to the past, but for different reasons. I think that "generating visions of the future" sounds too "supernatural" for purposes of personality assessment. I think Ni is more like reviewing past experiences to generate ideas and possibilities.

Ni is also abstraction directed inward, and so it is the function that desires intellectual stimulation. Ne is abstraction directed outward, and so it's the expression of ideas -- making it the function of creative imagination.

NOTE: Creativity is really not related to imagination or Intuition, when you think about it. I believe that it's any of the Extraverted functions that are creative, because creativity is directed in the outer world.
Very good points. I would definitely say Ne is the most creative function. It is interesting to debate if Se or Ni is more creative though. And I don't feel the word creative is very descriptive of Ni, I think it can be very visionary though.

When it comes to types and creativity I think the word creative some times get tossed around too much, but I have very high standards for what I consider creative. Do I consider 25-35 % (N percentage) of the population creative? Not nearly. I would perhaps consider 10 % of the population pretty creative.

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A good point yes.. and exhibionistic, self revealing..

Control and direction. I knew it I knew it! Beware of these TJs. They all have the Te at the top function unit. Te-Ni or Ni-Te or Te-Si or Si-Te.

That is why his name is Uberfuhrer, see?
Especially be aware of the xNTJs. Like many of history's xNFJs, the xNTJs also have a dream...but the xNTJs are just not as nice!
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Very good points. I would definitely say Ne is the most creative function. It is interesting to debate if Se or Ni is more creative though. And I don't feel the word creative is very descriptive of Ni, I think it can be very visionary though.

When it comes to types and creativity I think the word creative some times get tossed around too much, but I have very high standards for what I consider creative. Do I consider 25-35 % (N percentage) of the population creative? Not nearly. I would perhaps consider 10 % of the population pretty creative.

Absolutely loved the link, by the way.
Yeah, as an Ni, I have abstract visions in my mind, but I have trouble communicating them more concretely, except through the use of words and perhaps directing others and such. I often like to draw, but the pictures I created on paper are not quite the way I imagined them in my head.

I think that's the main difference between Ni and Ne. Ne has an easier time bringing their inner conceptions into reality because they have better spatial skills, so an Ne is probably more proficient in art, inventing, and the detail work involved in realizing a personal Intuitive vision.
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Actually, a lot of people end up with these processes mixed up in an order that doesn't seem to suggest any of the 16 types exactly.
Agreed. I have taken the test a couple of times which always results being Ni dominant with Fi being a close second making me an INFJ by their estimates. It also says I have average use of both Ti & Te which isn't true either.
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I don't know, but I could give you my results from Understanding the Eight Jungian Cognitive Processes / Eight Functions Attitudes , just to give you an idea anyway:

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************* (25.3)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ************************ (24.2)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.5)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************** (38.3)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************** (34.5)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************ (36.7)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.1)
average use
Appreciated. You are not much of a J.. apart from the Ni.
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Appreciated. You are not much of a J.. apart from the Ni.
Yeah, but results aren't 100 % perfect... But true, my J has grown much weaker in just the past year. I am kind of into an existential and identity crisis. I have less focus.
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