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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    So I made the video as well...i think I should say I am not english native speaker and I am not used to speak in english.
    Thankyou for making the video. Unfortunately, it's private so I can't see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edchidna1000 View Post
    Thankyou for making the video. Unfortunately, it's private so I can't see it.
    oh why the hell is it private? I made it public now, sorry I didn't expect youtube will make it private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    oh why the hell is it private? I made it public now, sorry I didn't expect youtube will make it private.
    That's fine, I've seen it now. This was a good video, thankyou for that!

    You're a bit of a Clumsy mover. You have lots of big, jerky, windmill movements with your hands and you in an awkward way, lacking physical control of your body in the space you occupy (weak Sensation). At the same time, you talk a lot about the interesting opportunities for creativity and self expression, the discussion of multiple perspectives in philosophy. Your communication is Passionate, the emotions are very clear on your face. Together this suggests someone who is Extroverted, Intuitive and Ethical.


    Your friends describe you as coming across as more confident than you are, this is probably because of Role Se which ILEs and IEEs can put on when interacting with others, allowing them to be assertive when necessary.


    You make a point about focusing on your own sentiments rather than group moods. You keep a distinction between people you like and don't like, sticking with your friends and avoiding those whom you distrust. This suggests Fi valuing over Fe.

    Strong Ne and weak Ti and Si come across in how you dislike day to day administration, being heavily drained by day to day tasks. At the same time, your ideal environment is a small, relaxing cafeteria beautiful paintings, pointing to valued Si albeit weak, showing Delta Values over Beta Values.

    Overall, this points to IEE-ENFp.

    Here are some profiles:
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    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFp-by-Beskova
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    Quote Originally Posted by edchidna1000 View Post
    That's fine, I've seen it now. This was a good video, thankyou for that!

    You're a bit of a Clumsy mover. You have lots of big, jerky, windmill movements with your hands and you in an awkward way, lacking physical control of your body in the space you occupy (weak Sensation). At the same time, you talk a lot about the interesting opportunities for creativity and self expression, the discussion of multiple perspectives in philosophy. Your communication is Passionate, the emotions are very clear on your face. Together this suggests someone who is Extroverted, Intuitive and Ethical.


    Your friends describe you as coming across as more confident than you are, this is probably because of Role Se which ILEs and IEEs can put on when interacting with others, allowing them to be assertive when necessary.


    You make a point about focusing on your own sentiments rather than group moods. You keep a distinction between people you like and don't like, sticking with your friends and avoiding those whom you distrust. This suggests Fi valuing over Fe.

    Strong Ne and weak Ti and Si come across in how you dislike day to day administration, being heavily drained by day to day tasks. At the same time, your ideal environment is a small, relaxing cafeteria beautiful paintings, pointing to valued Si albeit weak, showing Delta Values over Beta Values.

    Overall, this points to IEE-ENFp.

    Here are some profiles:
    http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/IEE-ENFp/
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ile-by-Gulenko
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFp-by-Beskova
    Thank you for that! I am very clumsy person indeed, I always drop things out of my hands, or break something because of my clumsiness, but I hoped it's not so clearly visible .
    I relate to ENFp description very well, I mostly like the the female portrait of an ENFp it's almost exactly me! This is much better fit than what I can read in MBTI about ENFPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    Thank you for that! I am very clumsy person indeed, I always drop things out of my hands, or break something because of my clumsiness, but I hoped it's not so clearly visible .
    I relate to ENFp description very well, I mostly like the the female portrait of an ENFp it's almost exactly me! This is much better fit than what I can read in MBTI about ENFPs.
    Well, that's because there's a reason for Socionics being more complicated than MBTI. One makes a hit and miss generalisation, the other actually demonstrates why ENFp acts the way it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edchidna1000 View Post
    If you must do it in writing then you may.
    OK thanks

    How did you get into typology?

    I was following someone's blog and she linked to a MBTI site and I went and liked it. I also liked the idea of talking to people of similar type as mine or just talking with types that seem interesting in general. All in all, I was most interested in talking to N types. This doesn't seem as simple as I initially thought because clearly a person is more complex than just their type, still I find it interesting.


    What interested you about psychology?

    Psychology in general? Good question, when I was 18, I suddenly found that I was interested in reading books relating to the brain. (It was sudden, I did not care before about the brain specifically but I did like biology and chemistry.) Anything biology or psychology as long as it wasn't some psychoanalyst approach. That I just couldn't deal with, didn't make sense to me. Cognitive psychology makes a lot of sense however. It greatly shaped my worldview and my way of interpreting certain things, including philosophy questions. It feels like a powerful tool, it just so completely makes sense to me. I don't mean a practical tool however, I hardly need to use any of this for practical problem solving except if it's directly related to cognitive psychology. E.g. how it's best to learn something but that's just one example really.

    I said above that I'm distinctly *not* interested in psychoanalysis. That's less black and white lately, I'm finding some of the concepts can make sense, placed in a different framework however. Not the original psychoanalysis BS :P (I'm not trying to offend psychoanalysis fans here.) It's just some really freaking weird stuff :p


    What do you do for a living? What do you do for a college degree? Do you like your job? Is there something you'd prefer to be doing? Why? What are you like when doing your job? Are you much different at home?

    I've done different kinds of jobs: translation work, business in phones, some programming work. Majored in cognitive psychology. I would like to do something related to do that and also something to do with sports training. The former because I like the topic, the latter because I like doing sports and like helping people. I wouldn't mind at all if these involved some programming as well.

    When I had the choice with computer related work, I gravitated towards tasks that required working with numbers, analysing, in programming I liked translation between different languages, low level languages, debugging, reverse engineering, hacking what I was not supposed to hack. I also enjoyed dealing with cool smartphones and similar devices (playing with them, selling them). I didn't like translation work as much, I mean I can do it, it's great for money, it's just not my dream job. I would have to be a more verbal person to truly enjoy it, I think.

    Doing job: focused, can work for a long time, I'm precise to an extent but I'm not anal about everything. I am also fast if possible, focused on seeing progress toward end goal, that ties into taking it as a challenge to make it fun enough. Unfortunately I also tend to procrastinate so deadlines are really useful because I will definitely get things done then. I do have and enjoy self-discipline to accomplish something if I'm motivated to go and do the thing NOW.

    At home, the only difference is that I obviously have time to indulge recklessly in whatever I like. So that's the other side of the coin, no self-discipline with that and it's still just as enjoyable. :P The exception is with my non-work related goals, such as getting better in sport so I'm disciplined there and that's part of what I enjoy about it: getting the workout done, meeting specific goal with workout, as a result getting fitter stronger etc.


    What aspects of your life are you especially good with? What do you feel that you are especially bad at? What have you done to draw admiration or criticism from others?

    Esp good: If comparing myself to others, mathematics, certain sports. :p I'm also good at getting what I want. Good at competing with and combating others. I think I'm also good at examining my own mind (yeah cognitive stuff, but I sometimes hit upon things to "control" my mind, this is some instinct I always had). Good at navigating. Acquiring skills. Also great at procrastination. (joke, this should belong to "especially bad")

    Esp bad: no control over emotional expression yes think bad temper :P. Not feeling close to people (what's that even). In some situations, getting stuck in a way of thinking and not thinking of variables to solve the situation more easily ("outside the box" thinking, but sometimes it's trivial things I don't think of!). Lack of tact (though if I want to get something, I can temporarily be pretty diplomatic). Not finding the words quickly to reply when I'm surprised by someone (I'm not such a verbal person really). Procrastination as I said above. Hmm I also really suck when I start acquiring a new skill, physical or mental, doesn't matter, I feel like I'm starting below zero but this doesn't really matter because it's only temporary clumsiness if a physical task or temporary lack of understanding if a mental task. Hm, also really bad at housekeeping because I can't be bothered enough, though if I start doing it, I get a lot done in one go.

    Admiration: my successes, confidence (says my brother, etc), I'm fast and can find my way around everything (says my mother), I'm smart (says just about everyone).

    Criticism is about not listening to others, blunt style, not being social "enough" (including social rules) and not being considerate. I also got criticism from some people that I seem weird trying to analyse stuff so deep. :/


    What sort of environment would you feel most at home in? Describe its atmosphere and surroundings, its inhabitants, the conversations or lack thereof, the philosophy of this ideal environment.

    What a difficult question. Interesting but hard to imagine the ideal.

    For physical environment, I like big cities and hills and the beach . I have some favourite cities too. Or a labyrinth that's hard to navigate your way out of . Or just a lot of wandering/traveling (alone or if with someone, they should follow me). I like traveling with the feeling I could end up anywhere. So these places are usually complex environments, needing some navigation and/or alive with lots of things/people, chance for competition too.

    Conversations: either no real conversation (a few words here and there is good to have but no more please - I of course mean this IRL, not online) or a deep discussion about the mind or some such thing.

    I'll skip the rest, I don't know the answers and I'm not even sure what you meant by philosophy of environment.


    Also... no video but I can tell you I like making fast movements and precise movements as well, I am not graceful however as I put too much power into movements, I got comments on that before but I guess I like doing stuff this way :p. I have good control over movement by default but if some task is new to me, I can be clumsy, sometimes really slow initially with learning, hate that phase. After practice I'm fine though. I guess some of this doesn't fit so well into your categories or does it? I'm curious, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    OK thanks

    How did you get into typology?

    I was following someone's blog and she linked to a MBTI site and I went and liked it. I also liked the idea of talking to people of similar type as mine or just talking with types that seem interesting in general. All in all, I was most interested in talking to N types. This doesn't seem as simple as I initially thought because clearly a person is more complex than just their type, still I find it interesting.


    What interested you about psychology?

    Psychology in general? Good question, when I was 18, I suddenly found that I was interested in reading books relating to the brain. (It was sudden, I did not care before about the brain specifically but I did like biology and chemistry.) Anything biology or psychology as long as it wasn't some psychoanalyst approach. That I just couldn't deal with, didn't make sense to me. Cognitive psychology makes a lot of sense however. It greatly shaped my worldview and my way of interpreting certain things, including philosophy questions. It feels like a powerful tool, it just so completely makes sense to me. I don't mean a practical tool however, I hardly need to use any of this for practical problem solving except if it's directly related to cognitive psychology. E.g. how it's best to learn something but that's just one example really.

    I said above that I'm distinctly *not* interested in psychoanalysis. That's less black and white lately, I'm finding some of the concepts can make sense, placed in a different framework however. Not the original psychoanalysis BS :P (I'm not trying to offend psychoanalysis fans here.) It's just some really freaking weird stuff :p


    What do you do for a living? What do you do for a college degree? Do you like your job? Is there something you'd prefer to be doing? Why? What are you like when doing your job? Are you much different at home?

    I've done different kinds of jobs: translation work, business in phones, some programming work. Majored in cognitive psychology. I would like to do something related to do that and also something to do with sports training. The former because I like the topic, the latter because I like doing sports and like helping people. I wouldn't mind at all if these involved some programming as well.

    When I had the choice with computer related work, I gravitated towards tasks that required working with numbers, analysing, in programming I liked translation between different languages, low level languages, debugging, reverse engineering, hacking what I was not supposed to hack. I also enjoyed dealing with cool smartphones and similar devices (playing with them, selling them). I didn't like translation work as much, I mean I can do it, it's great for money, it's just not my dream job. I would have to be a more verbal person to truly enjoy it, I think.

    Doing job: focused, can work for a long time, I'm precise to an extent but I'm not anal about everything. I am also fast if possible, focused on seeing progress toward end goal, that ties into taking it as a challenge to make it fun enough. Unfortunately I also tend to procrastinate so deadlines are really useful because I will definitely get things done then. I do have and enjoy self-discipline to accomplish something if I'm motivated to go and do the thing NOW.

    At home, the only difference is that I obviously have time to indulge recklessly in whatever I like. So that's the other side of the coin, no self-discipline with that and it's still just as enjoyable. :P The exception is with my non-work related goals, such as getting better in sport so I'm disciplined there and that's part of what I enjoy about it: getting the workout done, meeting specific goal with workout, as a result getting fitter stronger etc.


    What aspects of your life are you especially good with? What do you feel that you are especially bad at? What have you done to draw admiration or criticism from others?

    Esp good: If comparing myself to others, mathematics, certain sports. :p I'm also good at getting what I want. Good at competing with and combating others. I think I'm also good at examining my own mind (yeah cognitive stuff, but I sometimes hit upon things to "control" my mind, this is some instinct I always had). Good at navigating. Acquiring skills. Also great at procrastination. (joke, this should belong to "especially bad")

    Esp bad: no control over emotional expression yes think bad temper :P. Not feeling close to people (what's that even). In some situations, getting stuck in a way of thinking and not thinking of variables to solve the situation more easily ("outside the box" thinking, but sometimes it's trivial things I don't think of!). Lack of tact (though if I want to get something, I can temporarily be pretty diplomatic). Not finding the words quickly to reply when I'm surprised by someone (I'm not such a verbal person really). Procrastination as I said above. Hmm I also really suck when I start acquiring a new skill, physical or mental, doesn't matter, I feel like I'm starting below zero but this doesn't really matter because it's only temporary clumsiness if a physical task or temporary lack of understanding if a mental task. Hm, also really bad at housekeeping because I can't be bothered enough, though if I start doing it, I get a lot done in one go.

    Admiration: my successes, confidence (says my brother, etc), I'm fast and can find my way around everything (says my mother), I'm smart (says just about everyone).

    Criticism is about not listening to others, blunt style, not being social "enough" (including social rules) and not being considerate. I also got criticism from some people that I seem weird trying to analyse stuff so deep. :/


    What sort of environment would you feel most at home in? Describe its atmosphere and surroundings, its inhabitants, the conversations or lack thereof, the philosophy of this ideal environment.

    What a difficult question. Interesting but hard to imagine the ideal.

    For physical environment, I like big cities and hills and the beach . I have some favourite cities too. Or a labyrinth that's hard to navigate your way out of . Or just a lot of wandering/traveling (alone or if with someone, they should follow me). I like traveling with the feeling I could end up anywhere. So these places are usually complex environments, needing some navigation and/or alive with lots of things/people, chance for competition too.

    Conversations: either no real conversation (a few words here and there is good to have but no more please - I of course mean this IRL, not online) or a deep discussion about the mind or some such thing.

    I'll skip the rest, I don't know the answers and I'm not even sure what you meant by philosophy of environment.


    Also... no video but I can tell you I like making fast movements and precise movements as well, I am not graceful however as I put too much power into movements, I got comments on that before but I guess I like doing stuff this way :p. I have good control over movement by default but if some task is new to me, I can be clumsy, sometimes really slow initially with learning, hate that phase. After practice I'm fine though. I guess some of this doesn't fit so well into your categories or does it? I'm curious, thanks
    Thanks @valaki,

    Reading this, I noticed a few things...

    You like analytical subjects based on structure e.g. the grammar of computer languages, the modules of the brain etc. At the same time, you don't look to put this knowledge to any practical use, telling me you likely value Ti>Te. At the same time you mention that your area of criticism lies in interacting appropriately with others, suggesting weaker Ethics. This tells me that you have Ti in the Ego Block.

    You seem to be an Extroverted and Irrational... you often say that despite having a difficulty with certain things, you will alter your levels of effort depending on whether you want the thing or not. A lot of this seems about you going after what you want when you want and at no point do you talk about what should be done. At the same time, you're described as fast, getting your way around things, basically having that extra energy of someone with an expansive mindset.

    This takes us to two possibilities: ILE or SLE.

    Between the two, I'm not sure. You seem to balance your intellectual life with your physical pretty well. You do sports and you show interest in theoretical subjects. The question is whether you are a person more decided on getting what you want through competition in the physical world i.e. physical experiences, that high-paying job, that shiny car etc. or are you more the person who entertains intellectual wants i.e. that interesting possibility, that new theory, that potentially fascinating idea etc.
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    Hope you're ok with an audio recording...

    http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ay5bUxG5ju
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    Hello there,

    Here goes! Thanks @edchidna1000 Let me know if you need any more info... I'm a rambler. Also the video and audio is quite out of time in a lot of places, sorry, my computer doesn't like PhotoBooth.



    Also if you have any guesses on my MBTI type that would be great Thanks for doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbage View Post
    I'm in. I could stand to revisit Socionics, just for the hell of it.
    As promised,

    check here:
    Quote Originally Posted by garbage View Post
    This is for the Socionics Video Questionnaire thread, but I'm placing it here for a little bit of privacy.
    Feel free to analyze my video in this thread, though. Also, if you can't view it, shoot me a rep or PM and I'll get the link to you.

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