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    Default A socionics comparison of INTJ/INTP.

    INTj or INTp?

    I've only recently spent time looking into socionics. By all other measures, I firmly identify with INTJ.

    But the contentions for INTP in this article fit me much better than how they characterize INTJ.

    What do you INTJs/INTPs think? Is socionics hokum? What do you other types think?

    It almost seems to me that they swapped the two.

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    Many people say that for introverts in Socionics, switch the J and P to correlate with MBTI. Personally, I think it depends. MBTI and Socionics don't correlate perfectly. MBTI INTP could be INTp, INTj, or even ENTp or something else.

    For me, I seem to be somewhat in the middle between INTp and INTj, tho I lean towards INTj...
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    Socionics overcomplicates the concept of personality assessment. Though I do like the idea of functions, I doubt that there is an objective way to clearly order them, on the basis of type.

    Furthermore, between the INTp and INTj descriptions, I am significantly more like the INTp.
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    The pages on this site that describe relationships, don't put any Ns with Ns or Ss with Ss as the ideal match. That seems like garbage.

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    Also, don't use socionics.com, that site sucks. Use Wikisocion.
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    @Engler: you are whatever Erudur is

    @Erudur: you are whatever Engler is



    (i would say socioncs intp / NiTeSiFe, but i contradict myself all the time ...)

    oh, sorry if i misunderstood the topic *g*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engler View Post
    Socionics overcomplicates the concept of personality assessment. Though I do like the idea of functions, I doubt that there is an objective way to clearly order them, on the basis of type.
    Actually, random people on an internet forum can objectively and with a high degree of certainty determine your exact functional order based on reading 3 of your posts.

    I know, I was surprised too, but apparently that's the way it works. It's science.
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't a socionics INTj a MBTI INTP? And vice versa...?

    I thought that in socionics, the j and p (lower case) are given based on the dominant function itself, not the introversion or extroversion of it. Since an INTP's dominant function is Ti and this is a judging function, this makes the INTP a socionics INTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't a socionics INTj a MBTI INTP? And vice versa...?

    I thought that in socionics, the j and p (lower case) are given based on the dominant function itself, not the introversion or extroversion of it. Since an INTP's dominant function is Ti and this is a judging function, this makes the INTP a socionics INTj.

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    Yes, that's correct. However, the socionics type descriptions are a bit different than the MBTI type descriptions.
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    It's a toss up for me, I've tested as either. I read the descriptions and can apply both to different areas of my life. I've since just considered myself INTx, though gun to my head I'd go INTj, because I agree more with the Dominant/Secondary descriptions of INTj than INTp, though the tertiary and inferior function descriptions of INTp fit better than INTj.



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