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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    enfp+istp=duals in socionics
    I have noticed that we tend to look like our J/P counterpart when we are in control or we are on our own. Ps are more decisive and Js are more open. This is the flaw in MBTI is that it is based on outward appearance which changes. Appearance even change based on who we are around. We tend to pick up weaknesses and strengths based on the dynamics of the situation. I think my cousin is ESFP and around her I tend to be more J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    well, i think you are right about the physical characteristics, from what i've read and correlated with types i know. BUT. it is WAY off when it comes to its relationship methodology!! it says i (infj) and intj would make good 'business partners' but not an effective relationship.....however, i'm in a pretty-damn-fabulous 21 year relationship with an intj. also, it says my duality partner would be....um, esfp i think[..]
    Agreed. The dual for INFj is actually ESTj. Which I don't understand. I've never had a great relationship with an ESTj. I can agree with the other quadra members (ENFp and ISTp) being good picks, but not ESTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Agreed. The dual for INFj is actually ESTj. Which I don't understand. I've never had a great relationship with an ESTj. I can agree with the other quadra members (ENFp and ISTp) being good picks, but not ESTj.
    My EII friend is married to an LSE and they admire each other frankly. Fi and Te seem to go hand-in-hand.

    I could imagine how MBTI ESTJs actually type as socionics ESTps and that kind of relationship is a no-no (I don't see how I could handle an Fe girl). The J-P switch is pretty common among introverts like the INF as well. There's also the introvert-extrovert switch. For example one of my good friends typed as an INxP in MBTI, but he's actually an ENFp in socionics.

    So if an INFJ/ESTJ relationship is a catastrophe from the beginning, good chance they aren't INFj/ESTj "duals".

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    My EII friend is married to an LSE and they admire each other frankly. Fi and Te seem to go hand-in-hand.

    I could imagine how MBTI ESTJs actually type as socionics ESTps and that kind of relationship is a no-no. It's pretty common among the INFs as well.
    My comments were in reference to Socionics ESTjs.

    There's also an introvert-extrovert switch. One of my good friends typed as an INxP in MBTI, but he's actually an ENFp in socionics
    :rolleyes2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    My comments were in reference to Socionics ESTjs.
    So you're an INFj and your relationships with ESTjs were very negative, or they just didn't work out?

    Because none of my dual relationships have worked out. I can always see our resemblance, but I guess I don't try to make it work. I figure an SeFi would be responsible for initiation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    Socionics IS amazing. And the physical descriptions aren't really guesses but fairly accurate (though not always) theories they've put together over many years.
    I don't see any pattern of accuracy in them whatsoever. Are there any studies on this that you can point to?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    So you're an INFj and your relationships with ESTjs were very negative, or they just didn't work out?
    Both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    :rolleyes2:
    Well, goodness. Think about it: MBTI version of E/I has to do with how "talkative" and "energized by people" you are. That is off base with traditional extraversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Both.
    What have been your best relationships? Any really wonderful experiences come out of dating or anything of the like? Fi is difficult for dating. I know from experience because I've gone with an ESI before. There's just so much she needs to bring forth, and I think an extraverted, objective, straight-shooter version of me will do that for her. From there I can see confidence and order upon her Se and that will dominate and make justification for appropriate action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    What have been your best relationships? Any really wonderful experiences come out of dating or anything of the like? Fi is difficult for dating. I know from experience because I've gone with an ESI before. There's just so much she needs to bring forth, and I think an extraverted, objective, straight-shooter version of me will do that for her. From there I can see confidence and order upon her Se and that will dominate and make justification for appropriate action.
    Not criticizing, but INTPs are not the best at analyzing based on functional or actually applying knowledge to the real world. Its good to know your weakness as well as strengths.

    In regards to relationships in general its one big compromise. You cant just look at one aspect of it. Its all about dynamics. Sometimes taking care of one function will pull them out of it and push them into something else. You cant base anything off a static view. You have to figure out what the best compromise is.

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