Feeling obligated - Page 5

substitute · 09-03-2008, 10:29 AM

This is all very enlightening. Must say though, I couldn't help this clip from popping up in my mind...

Condor · 09-04-2008, 01:13 AM

I'm not sure how the clip pops up based on our discussion - then again, it probably isn't surprising that I don't get it, is it?

EJCC · 09-04-2008, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Condor

I'm not sure how the clip pops up based on our discussion - then again, it probably isn't surprising that I don't get it, is it?

I was literally thinking exactly the same thing! NOT joking! :O

Recoleta · 09-04-2008, 04:43 AM

Yeah, I don't get it either....

Subs, why don't you tell us about the correlation you see...because I'm really at a loss as well.

The only thing that I could possibly see is that Bert puts up with Ernie as an obligation to his brother when he'd probably rather not be associated with Ernie, or would at least rather be doing something "awesome" (like collecting paper clips or argyle socks). However, once Bert gives in to Ernie's whims Bert discovers that it's not so bad afterall.

Condor · 09-04-2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recoleta

Yeah, I don't get it either....

Subs, why don't you tell us about the correlation you see...because I'm really at a loss as well.

The only thing that I could possibly see is that Bert puts up with Ernie as an obligation to his brother when he'd probably rather not be associated with Ernie, or would at least rather be doing something "awesome" (like collecting paper clips or argyle socks). However, once Bert gives in to Ernie's whims Bert discovers that it's not so bad afterall.

I think that's it. The obligation to acknowledge what is being done is obivously not grounded in reality, but still participating nonetheless. Something along the line of an adult participating in a child's make believe world? I guess so. I can understand and accept the concept of not squashing a child's disbelief with reality - to a point. And the amount of politicial, social and religous concepts that can be paralleled to the clip would be staggering.

Obligations - a good example of a double-edged sword.

substitute · 09-04-2008, 03:43 PM

Excuse the connection making, sorry, it's a 'flaw' of my type

I just thought of it when you were talking about not understanding 'letting go' and having fun. Bert doesn't want to let go of feeling silly and like it's a waste of time, but eventually gives in and once he starts he genuinely seems to enjoy it . It wasn't supposed to be a cast-iron analogy, just a bit of... fun

Recoleta · 09-04-2008, 04:06 PM

Oh...

Riiiight!

Condor · 09-04-2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by substitute

Excuse the connection making, sorry, it's a 'flaw' of my type

I just thought of it when you were talking about not understanding 'letting go' and having fun. Bert doesn't want to let go of feeling silly and like it's a waste of time, but eventually gives in and once he starts he genuinely seems to enjoy it . It wasn't supposed to be a cast-iron analogy, just a bit of... fun

Ah....

And please excuse the attempt at seeking a cast-iron analogy - one of my (many, many, many, ad infinitium) flaws...

substitute · 09-04-2008, 04:25 PM

LOL you guys!

EJCC · 09-04-2008, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by substitute

Excuse the connection making, sorry, it's a 'flaw' of my type

I just thought of it when you were talking about not understanding 'letting go' and having fun. Bert doesn't want to let go of feeling silly and like it's a waste of time, but eventually gives in and once he starts he genuinely seems to enjoy it . It wasn't supposed to be a cast-iron analogy, just a bit of... fun

LOL back!!! Please excuse MY flaw of being totally confused by metaphors. Not really a flaw on your part at all.

09-03-2008, 10:29 AM	#41 (permalink)
substitute Closet ENTJ Join Date: May 2007 Type: ENTP Location: Europe Posts: 4,471	This is all very enlightening. Must say though, I couldn't help this clip from popping up in my mind... __________________ Ils se démerdent, les mecs: trop bon, trop con..................................MY BLOG! And even though it all went wrong, I'll stand before the Lord of Song With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen

09-04-2008, 03:43 PM	#46 (permalink)
substitute Closet ENTJ Join Date: May 2007 Type: ENTP Location: Europe Posts: 4,471	Excuse the connection making, sorry, it's a 'flaw' of my type I just thought of it when you were talking about not understanding 'letting go' and having fun. Bert doesn't want to let go of feeling silly and like it's a waste of time, but eventually gives in and once he starts he genuinely seems to enjoy it . It wasn't supposed to be a cast-iron analogy, just a bit of... fun __________________ Ils se démerdent, les mecs: trop bon, trop con..................................MY BLOG! And even though it all went wrong, I'll stand before the Lord of Song With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen

09-04-2008, 04:25 PM	#49 (permalink)
substitute Closet ENTJ Join Date: May 2007 Type: ENTP Location: Europe Posts: 4,471	LOL you guys! __________________ Ils se démerdent, les mecs: trop bon, trop con..................................MY BLOG! And even though it all went wrong, I'll stand before the Lord of Song With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen

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09-04-2008, 01:13 AM	#42 (permalink)
Condor Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ISTJ Location: Chicago Posts: 80	I'm not sure how the clip pops up based on our discussion - then again, it probably isn't surprising that I don't get it, is it?

09-04-2008, 04:43 AM	#44 (permalink)
Recoleta No me digas, che! Join Date: Aug 2007 Type: ISTJ Posts: 622	Yeah, I don't get it either.... Subs, why don't you tell us about the correlation you see...because I'm really at a loss as well. The only thing that I could possibly see is that Bert puts up with Ernie as an obligation to his brother when he'd probably rather not be associated with Ernie, or would at least rather be doing something "awesome" (like collecting paper clips or argyle socks). However, once Bert gives in to Ernie's whims Bert discovers that it's not so bad afterall.

09-04-2008, 04:06 PM	#47 (permalink)
Recoleta No me digas, che! Join Date: Aug 2007 Type: ISTJ Posts: 622	Oh... Riiiight!