How strongly do you identify with the SJ/Guardian temperament?

[sassafrassquatch]

Since there seems to be an influx of ISTJs recently maybe I can get a large sampling here.

I feel very little connection with the descriptions of the SJ/Guardian temperament or the ISTJ personality. While it is difficult for me to read them without imagining conservative republicans it still doesn’t click with me. I despise most of the things which define the SJ temperament like tradition, duty, joining groups and group loyalty, doing things by-the-book rather than finding the best way, respecting authority and titles, I hate being burdened with responsibility.

I started a thread several months ago about SJs being socially/politically liberal but this is much broader.

According to this function inventory I am ISTJ. Although if I'm reading it correctly Te would appear to be my dominant function making me an ESTJ.

(Se) ******************* (19.7)
limited use
(Si) ************************************************** **** (54.1)
excellent use
(Ne) *************** (15.1)
unused
(Ni) *********** (11.3)
unused
(Te) ************************************************** ***** (55.1)
excellent use
(Ti) *********************************************** (47.5)
excellent use
(Fe) ******* (7.3)
unused
(Fi) ***************************** (29.3)
average use
Understanding the Eight Jungian Cognitive Processes / Eight Functions Attitudes

I’m curious to see how many SJs here are atypical.

[CaptainChick]

LOL, sorry, felt like taking a test!!



extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************************** (32.3)
good use
introverted Sensing (Si) ********** (10.5)
unused
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************ (36.6)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************** (32.4)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************* (13.7)
unused
introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************************** (29.3)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************************** (38.2)
excellent use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *********************************************** (47.6)
excellent use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ENFP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Staying true to who you really are. Paying close attention to your personal identity, values and beliefs. Checking with your conscience. Choosing behavior congruent with what is important to you.

[CaptainChick]

Note, I didn't really like that test at all, I felt like 25% of the questions were odd, or unclear, or both.

[sassafrassquatch]

Yeah, a lot of the questions had a WTFness to them. It really doesn't help that most MBTI material is written in this unintelligible abstract language.

[dnivera]

I trust online personality tests very little these days. I feel like I already know too much about what my type is already, so my answers might be "skewed."

I got Si>Ti>Te>Ne. Not 'in the box' at all.

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************* (19.9)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ***************************************** (41.3)
excellent use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ****************************** (30.3)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) *************************** (27.2)
average use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************* (33.2)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************** (34.2)
good use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) *************************** (27.3)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************** (27)
average use

[Uberfuhrer]

It kind of helps if you don't look at the questions in such a stereotypical way.

Like, for example, Ni is often described as the type of the prophets, which is a very generalized description of this type. But it could also relate to more down-to-earth premonitions, such as having a vision you are then compelled to make something happen. A vision not necessarily of what is to happen, but a vision for any sort of change.

Envisioning something extravagant like the end of the world is the same exact idea as envisioning yourself as a certain way or in a situation that you currently are not in.

[sassafrassquatch]

Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer

It kind of helps if you don't look at the questions in such a stereotypical way.

Like, for example, Ni is often described as the type of the prophets, which is a very generalized description of this type. But it could also relate to more down-to-earth premonitions, such as having a vision you are then compelled to make something happen. A vision not necessarily of what is to happen, but a vision for any sort of change.

Envisioning something extravagant like the end of the world is the same exact idea as envisioning yourself as a certain way or in a situation that you currently are not in.

Maybe I should just call myself INTJ having eliminated all other types even though I don't understand Ni as throughly as I'd like to.

[squibbles]

For what it's worth, I feel the same way. I usually score S/N 50/50, or max 55% one way or the other. But, because I identify with the INTJ profile more than the ISTJ profile on the whole, I self-typed as that one.

I'm not as out-of-the-box as the archetypal INTJ, but I'm not as traditional as the archetypal ISTJ.

This test in particular has typed me as everything from an ISTJ to an INFP. The only thing it knows is that I'm introverted!

[pure_mercury]

Originally Posted by sassafrassquatch

Since there seems to be an influx of ISTJs recently maybe I can get a large sampling here.

I feel very little connection with the descriptions of the SJ/Guardian temperament or the ISTJ personality. While it is difficult for me to read them without imagining conservative republicans it still doesn’t click with me. I despise most of the things which define the SJ temperament like tradition, duty, joining groups and group loyalty, doing things by-the-book rather than finding the best way, respecting authority and titles, I hate being burdened with responsibility.

I am an ESFJ and a libertarian. I do like having people depend on me, I am somewhat of a joiner (a lot of friends, sports fan, I love parties and get-togethers), and I will take on responsibilities I feel I can handle. I can be quite a "by-the-book" type, as well. However, I am very cynical about "the book" itself. I am skeptical of most authority, though I will respect it if I feel it has been earned. I disagree with some of your assessment about the SJ mentality: you seem to oversimplify SJs as blind followers, which is not the case, and there are many authority-loving, "by-the-book" political liberals running around in this world, as well. Best thing to remember: you are an individual, and you are not defined by your functions.

[Haphazard]

Originally Posted by pure_mercury

I am an ESFJ and a libertarian. I do like having people depend on me, I am somewhat of a joiner (a lot of friends, sports fan, I love parties and get-togethers, and I will take on responsibilities I feel I can handle. I can be quite a "by-the-book" type, as well. However, I am very cynical about "the book" itself. I am skeptical of most authority, though I will respect it if I feel it has been earned. I disagree with some of your assessment about the SJ mentality: you seem to oversimplify SJs as blind followers, which is not the case, and there are many authority-loving, "by-the-book" political liberals running around in this world, as well. Best thing to remember: you are an individual, and you are not defined by your functions.