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    The article is found here: Debunking the MBTI Debunkers - Typology Wiki

    It doesn't take a great deal of reasoning power to debunk the MBTI debunkers, partly because they miss the point. In the long run, what matters is not the validity of the MBTI (and it has been proven to be an objectively real indicator), but its functionalism. While it is an indicator of type, it cannot tell you what you should do for a living or who you should marry. In some respects I have found that the MBTI can provide a certain rule-of-thumb guideline for this or that purpose, there can be no doubt that it also plays into people's natural predisposition for prejudice.

    The reason I say "no doubt" is because of the fact that typology forum members all over the internet explicitly state their prejudices against those with certain types. And this is due to the psychological fact that people orient on the negatives because these things stand out more than the positives. It is always possible to find a way to perceive someone in a negative light, and the MBTI provides support for that simply by existing.
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    In some respects I have found that the MBTI can provide a certain rule-of-thumb guideline for this or that purpose, there can be no doubt that it also plays into people's natural predisposition for prejudice.
    What about the sources that argue that even if someone is of a certain type, that they should also learn how to get along with all sixteen types since not everyone is going to share their identical or close to identical typing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nørrsken View Post
    What about the sources that argue that even if someone is of a certain type, that they should also learn how to get along with all sixteen types since not everyone is going to share their identical or close to identical typing?
    They can argue all they want. I've spoken with Russ Hudson about this (concerning the Enneagram and prejudice against the type 3), and he agrees that it is very difficult to convince people to get along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    They can argue all they want. I've spoken with Russ Hudson about this (concerning the Enneagram and prejudice against the type 3), and he agrees that it is very difficult to convince people to get along.
    There's a prejudice against Type 3? Like what? I'm a type 3
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    @Mal12345 I thought you were sceptical about MBTI yourself. Guess not.

    I personally think there isn't a personality test out there with seemingly as much validity as MBTI. Having said that psychology will not become an exact science for decades to come until it gets linked up better with neurology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meowington View Post
    @Mal12345 I thought you were sceptical about MBTI yourself. Guess not.

    I personally think there isn't a personality test out there with as much validity as MBTI. Having said that psychology will not become an exact science for decades to come until it gets linked up better with neurology.
    Did you read the OP? Guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Did you read the OP? Guess not.
    Twice.

    So spell it out for me instead of being snobby all the time : how do you regard MBTI ? out of genuine curiosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meowington View Post
    Twice.
    Did you read the part about prejudice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Did you read the part about prejudice?
    Twice. Ok well if that part sums up your view : I share your sentiments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krim13 View Post
    There's a prejudice against Type 3? Like what? I'm a type 3
    The type 3 lacks authenticity. The Enneagram community is full of authenticity wonks who, like @Mole, hate superficiality.
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