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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    I just realized something. I kind of love everything you say.
    Um thanks but knowing me I'll change that somehow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woaden View Post
    On a more serious note, I find this to be very disturbing. This isn't something that is as simple as automated labor. This is something that requires strategy and creativity. How am I going to make money now?
    The video addresses exactly that if you watch it for long enough. There is no task, physical, analytical, or even creative, that an algorithm cannot eventually be programmed to do more efficiently than any human.



    That's what makes this scary and very much a new problem, rather than the age-old paranoia of dirt-cheap menial labor jobs disappearing. It's the loss of mental work that'll doom us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    The video addresses exactly that if you watch it for long enough. There is no task, physical, analytical, or even creative, that an algorithm cannot eventually be programmed to do more efficiently than any human.



    That's what makes this scary and very much a new problem, rather than the age-old paranoia of dirt-cheap menial labor jobs disappearing. It's the loss of mental work that'll doom us.
    Humans can be just as robotic as robots. In fact humans have already been doing what robots do - churning out product without a shred of sentiment.

    We've already started replacing ourselves with zombie replicas well before robots ever came along.

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    One thing I never understood was why people keep saying they'll take our jobs like it is a bad thing. I hate work. I say, good, let them take our jobs. More time for me to sit around doing the shit I like to do.
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    I know somebody who doesn't have bills to pay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    I know somebody who doesn't have bills to pay...
    I'm assuming if the robots take everyone's jobs money as we know it will change or disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopa View Post
    I'm assuming if the robots take everyone's jobs money as we know it will change or disappear.
    Robots get rid of labor but we still have commodities and we still have greed. Just because the robots are working doesn't mean you'll see any of their product for free.

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    And intellectual property is a huge testament to this. People expect you to give them something for something they never did an ounce of work for, simply because they 'own' it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Robots get rid of labor but we still have commodities and we still have greed. Just because the robots are working doesn't mean you'll see any of their product for free.

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    And intellectual property is a huge testament to this. People expect you to give them something for something they never did an ounce of work for, simply because they 'own' it.
    Sure, those are concerns and who knows how things will turn out. My speculation is that there will be transitional issues but things will ultimately go well and we won't choose insanity or slavery or whatever. Those seem more like dystopian scifi outcomes to me, and while dystopian scifi has its place, I don't think it should ever be taken as prophecy. Rather, I think it addresses current issues under a microscope, like the one you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopa View Post
    Sure, those are concerns and who knows how things will turn out. My speculation is that there will be transitional issues but things will ultimately go well and we won't choose insanity or slavery or whatever. Those seem more like dystopian scifi outcomes to me, and while dystopian scifi has its place, I don't think it should ever be taken as prophecy. Rather, I think it addresses current issues under a microscope, like the one you mentioned.
    It was wishful thinking on my part...

    You're crushing my dreams for a dystopian future. I think humans have earned one by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    It was wishful thinking on my part...

    You're crushing my dreams for a dystopian future. I think humans have earned one by now.
    Check this out - it's the most realistic and interesting depiction of the future I've seen so far.


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