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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    @sprinkles But don't you want to know why we just spent $800 K building a treadmill for some shrimp?
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    Oh snap

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    See @sprinkles. If scientists like Professor Skolnick would explain their research, the public wouldn't think they were wasting millions on a shrimp treadmill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    See @sprinkles. If scientists like Professor Skolnick would explain their research, the public wouldn't think they were wasting millions on a shrimp treadmill.
    If people wouldn't go around saying shit that isn't true there'd be a lot less to explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    See @sprinkles. If scientists like Professor Skolnick would explain their research, the public wouldn't think they were wasting millions on a shrimp treadmill.
    Moreover scientists don't need to refute every foolish claim that comes along. If they did, any political opponent could keep them busy by gumming up the works with stupid bullshit. A scientific filibuster. Just keep saying that the government is paying scientists $500 billion to find pink unicorns (pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows) and you'd halt progress if they have to take time to defend it every fricking time something stupid gets said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    There's an RC theologian who had to write a book against geocentricism just this year or something like that so it kind of shows the old differences die hard. Its a shame.
    He'd have done more good writing a book against egocentrism. (Hat tip to Tom Weller and the 1986 Hugo award winning Science Made Stupid).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Also purely theoretical "natural science" is only the base of science discipline and only a fraction of science remains at the purely theoretical level. This is what a lot of people call "science" and what they get excited about but this isn't the only kind of science, and is only scratching the surface.

    There are overlaps with natural science and applied science, such as with thermodynamics or materials sciences. When you study the nature of heat transfer for theoretical purposes you can also learn at the same time how to apply the knowledge for practical purposes. This means that engineering is on board and very nearby, even if the scientist is not also the engineer - and there are times when the scientist is the engineer too because the two are so closely related. Studying heat exchange can be for theory and practical applications at the same time, such as HVAC systems, and studying the structure of a special kind of steel is also theoretical and applied at the same time because you're making discoveries about the steel and then you can put the knowledge to practical use.

    So while science and engineering are technically different, they overlap considerably and often share the same goals.
    Theoretical science often serves as a brake on wasteful pursuits of practical application: for example thermodynamics places strict limits on the maximum efficiency of heat exchangers and engines; forbid the widely amusing attempts to construct working perpetual motion machines; but consensus masquerading as theory (e.g. old theories of the causes of ulcers) often lead to promising results being undiscovered on the grounds that "nothing can be done".

    That's why it's important to "turn over the rocks and look under them" when examining scientific claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_beard View Post
    Theoretical science often serves as a brake on wasteful pursuits of practical application: for example thermodynamics places strict limits on the maximum efficiency of heat exchangers and engines; forbid the widely amusing attempts to construct working perpetual motion machines; but consensus masquerading as theory (e.g. old theories of the causes of ulcers) often lead to promising results being undiscovered on the grounds that "nothing can be done".

    That's why it's important to "turn over the rocks and look under them" when examining scientific claims.
    True. Both aspects need each other (and in fact depend on each other in a feedback loop)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    So while science and engineering are technically different, they overlap considerably and often share the same goals.
    Not to mention there is applied science, in which scientific research is directed toward understanding the basic concepts necessary for developing specific applications, or categories of application. These people work closely with engineers to transition what they learn into designs and devices.
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