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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I am considering buying a smartphone in the near future, and always considered I would get some unlocked android and probably root it to get rid of the junk, but I have been hearing more and more positive things from colleagues and friends about the iphone. Which one is considered better for privacy/personal security? I like the samsungs because they have a removable battery and more and more phones do not. Battery removal seems to be the only way to ensure your phone is really off. Plus, if the battery starts to go bad, you can order another without having to send your phone somewhere for service.

    Thoughts, anyone?
    nothing lasts, keeping the phone would be holding on to a relic if you have to swap the battery (usually two years). the apple, just works. you can't argue around that. when the hardware dies.... time to get the new hardware with all the apps expecting new hardware. as Woaden said. the upgrade path with software is also more predictable. if you want to tinker and have bags of patience. then android could be your thing.

    i'm on a small android samsung pocket. opening up google hangout (written by google) takes minutes to open. that is written by googel for google's android. however. if you have v8 (car engine) hardware. then it is not so bad. mind you apple forces you with v8 hardware too in nice packaging. so... both will turn out to be expensive. if you want android experience to be on par with apple. (will always lag imho)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I am considering buying a smartphone in the near future, and always considered I would get some unlocked android and probably root it to get rid of the junk, but I have been hearing more and more positive things from colleagues and friends about the iphone. Which one is considered better for privacy/personal security? I like the samsungs because they have a removable battery and more and more phones do not. Battery removal seems to be the only way to ensure your phone is really off. Plus, if the battery starts to go bad, you can order another without having to send your phone somewhere for service.

    Thoughts, anyone?
    iphone vs android really depends on how much you want co configure the phone and ofc whether or not you like iOS(apples operating system) straight out of the box(as you cant modify it much).

    what comes to rooting, its not necessary unless you want to do some stuff that the average user doesent need(like some advanced networking things that you really need unless you are some linux hacker). also rooting the device will remove the warranty(and might fuck up the phone if something goes wrong), so i wouldnt do that until the warranty is over.

    iphone is just slightly better for security and rooting android will make it even worse. the thing is that all apps are more controlled by apple, so you dont get malware from them so easily. also because android is more open OS, its easier to hack(while iOS is nearly impossible), but also this sort of faults are more easily found(as it is open source), but again because samsung and other manufacturers run their own architecture over android. so you getting this sort of updates that fix the issues need to first be fixed by googles android guys, then samsung, and some of these updates getting on your phone might take few weeks to over a month, while with apple its nearly instant. if someone would be able to hack iOS, they would try to keep it as a secret as well as possible so that they could get monetary goods from it and try to do it without people noticing that iOS has been hacked, which means that they wouldnt try to get everything from everyone. if someone would be able to hack androids, they would spread the info all over the internet and anyone could get on your phone(and believe me there would be many people trying to do this).

    i had samsung galaxy s2 before and with that phone removing battery was necessary as the phone would tilt all the time(like once a week on average) and i had to remove the battery, or the phone would suddenly start to heat up like hell and had to restart it, also it sometimes cut me off from mobile network without showing any signs of that to me.. iphones are more stable and doesent really need that sort of thing. battery itself didnt go bad during that 3 years i used the phone, charging port did get broken tho(had to insert the charger in right angle and put the cable to rest on something, so that it would stay on that angle).

    android phones are also much cheaper(at least here), but if you get a cheap android you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Its been a few years since i got into this smartphone thing and i used to laugh at iphones for being so expensive, yet not offering much processing power, pretty much uncustomizable OS etc etc. Not that i havent been happy with my android phone, but getting an android phone to work in a way that its a pleasure to use requires quite bit of customization and know how(also money unless you do it like i did and wared the programs), luckily it wasnt a problem for me. Now like two weeks ago i was thinking of getting a new phone since i noticed how much cameras on them have improved and the charging port on my phone is starting to brake. First i started looking at the cameras. At first it seemed like android was the way to go still since they have so fancy cameras with 16+megadicksells, but looking at all of them a bit deeper, i noticed that all of them were lacking on one or another department, some had shitty AWB, others were poor at focusing, or poor at calculating the exposure, inability to produce colors properly(not just because of shitty AWB) etc. and seriously the size of pixels on sensor is a larger factor to image quality than the amount of pixels. Then i started to look at other specs, like fingerprint reader was something i really wanted, sony or other phones with the back(etc) buttons being on screen is something i will not tolerate on a phone. I dont care about the phone being fastest on market, just as long as its not too much slower than the fastest. Then i started to entertain myself with the iphone 5s, looking at its camera(which is far superior to most of the android phones on market) and noticed that there is a OS upgrade coming and also a new iphone. Then i started looking at how i have modified my current phone to serve me the best and noticed that ios8 isnt that much different.. Also what caught my eyes was that now developers have better access to iphone camera functions, not going to go much in detail with that, but lets just say that its a good thing that apple finally is starting to open up their OS at least a bit more to developers. Specs on iphones are quite misleading because the processors are nearly half the speed of good android processors, but looking into this more, it seems that it doesent matter to performance because apparently android has some fundamental design flaws pretty much require better processors(for example all processes take same amount of processor power because thats the way it was on first android version and thats what the newer stuff is built on and it will cause occasional lags and freezes no matter how much processing power the phone has).
    So after trying to figure out which phone i should get, i ended up preordering iphone6

    Now i am expecting all the android fan boys to come and laugh at me And no, i dont consider myself a fan boy of any sort im too old for that sort of thing, i just want to push some buttons(still not too old for that)
    Because people don't buy goods and services because of trend, style or other non-functional reasons, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    Because people don't buy goods and services because of trend, style or other non-functional reasons, right?
    Some people do. Why?
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    I have a Galaxy S5 and love it. It is much better than the iPhone IMO from an overall usability perspective. The screen is fantastic and I like the bigger size. I make too many mistakes typing on the iPhone. Tried using one for three years and could never get used to it. The only thing I don't like about the Samsung is that it is more complicated to set up the sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Some people do. Why?
    Was just answering your OP....
    Good result (vs. Soton)...still have to go #Arsene

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I have a Galaxy S5 and love it. It is much better than the iPhone IMO from an overall usability perspective. The screen is fantastic and I like the bigger size. I make too many mistakes typing on the iPhone. Tried using one for three years and could never get used to it. The only thing I don't like about the Samsung is that it is more complicated to set up the sounds.
    Good to know. I have been contemplating getting a Samsung for many months now, but still cannot justify the cost, either of the initial purchase, or of the monthly plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Good to know. I have been contemplating getting a Samsung for many months now, but still cannot justify the cost, either of the initial purchase, or of the monthly plans.
    If you like to fiddle and hack, get an Android.

    If you want things to work as it is, get an iPhone.

    Android is fragmented and you won't get timely updates, so if you find a bug, chances are you're stuck with it.

    Also @highlander, keyboard is a matter of personal preference. You can install 3rd party keyboards on both systems now, with Android having a larger selection. I like SwiftKey for android. That being said apple's stock keyboard is still one of the best, and if you have pudgy hands you can get the new 5.5inch 6+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woaden View Post
    If you like to fiddle and hack, get an Android.

    If you want things to work as it is, get an iPhone.

    Android is fragmented and you won't get timely updates, so if you find a bug, chances are you're stuck with it.

    Also @highlander, keyboard is a matter of personal preference. You can install 3rd party keyboards on both systems now, with Android having a larger selection. I like SwiftKey for android. That being said apple's stock keyboard is still one of the best, and if you have pudgy hands you can get the new 5.5inch 6+.
    Good to know.

    Honestly though, who wants to install different keyboard software? No me.

    I don't have pudgy hands at all. I just find that I can't use the iPhone keyboard. I think it sucks. Perhaps it is personal preference or at least compatibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Good to know.

    Honestly though, who wants to install different keyboard software? No me.

    I don't have pudgy hands at all. I just find that I can't use the iPhone keyboard. I think it sucks. Perhaps it is personal preference or at least compatibility.
    It certainly is. I couldn't get used to the 3rd party keyboards on my iPhone, or the stock keyboard on my old android.

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