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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    You guys never watched Gattaca, did you?

    .... I suspect western culture will slowly add tweaks and add'l screening into the gene pool but avoid any kind of overt mandatory requirements. It'll be more elective and informative.
    The Gattaca scenario is sort of already happening (PDG clinic embryo screening), but it might very well be dwarfed compared to what seems to be on the horizon. Right now the trends are cheaper DNA testing, openly accessible online information & constant improvement in big data management. Screening the genetic marker for a heart condition is one thing, imagine if they notice that certain genetic markers correlate with better feedback in contract work websites, with cleaner criminal records, with more answers on dating sites, or with longer "in relationship" status on FB? What about genetic traits leading to personalities that respond better to different ads or political messages? What if certain genetic traits are more likely to volunteer into military service? The mechanic are all very subtle, but we might be reaching a state where we can make a lot of connections without having any idea as to why they work the way they do. It would eventually help us find out, we'd know what to look for in regards to how genes influence our biochemistry and mental development, and we'd be able to harness that knowledge, but a lot can happen within that gap.

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    @SilentMusings what is the elite exactly who is part of it?
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    @SilentMusings what is the elite exactly who is part of it?
    I'd also be interested in the answer to this question.
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    As to who would be part of an elite, well...under the scenario I have laid out, at first it would be anyone who didn't have a serious genetic disorder. However as "elite" implies a minority, I do not consider conventional eugenics, which would only target a small percentage of the population, to be a vehicle towards elitism. However, as over time technology will make precise manipulation of the genome a reality, an elite group will coalesce. The financially wealthy will make up this group - like today, we will be able to access better quality treatment, and a wider range of it, than the majority. As much as I will be condemned for saying it, I do truly believe that this is the way it should be, because if everybody had equal resources there would be no motivation to work hard. Some inequality and diversity is desirable in a society. This is why I think eugenics should be regulated, and I laid out how in my earlier posts.

    Arguments about genetic diversity are overly hypothetical. For a start, I would point adherents back to my meteorite analogy. Also, they fall on their face when you consider that many people with serious genetic disorders are going to be a biological dead end, either due to other people practicing a primal form of eugenics on them or the invalids themselves dying or being incapable of putting themselves out there. I also mentioned that medical advances mean that we don't rely on genetic diversity in the way we once did.

    Sorry to say, but there is a serious lack of Te in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    Sorry to say, but there is a serious lack of Te in this thread.
    Type has nothing to do with this, and saying this is implying in some way that Te is somehow superior for this sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    Type has nothing to do with this, and saying this is implying in some way that Te is somehow superior for this sort of thing.
    It is. Unchecked Ti leads to



    Now that's sorted, back to eugenics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    It is.
    No, it's not. Every function is no better or worse than another, they are meerly preferences. To think otherwise is judgemental, foolish, and COMPLETELY misses the point of MBTI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    No, it's not. Every function is no better or worse than another, they are meerly preferences. To think otherwise is judgemental, foolish, and COMPLETELY misses the point of MBTI.
    You really have no sense of humour, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    You really have no sense of humour, do you?
    I take things seriously unless it is totally clear something is a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    I take things seriously unless it is totally clear something is a joke.
    When someone posts a picture with lots of half-naked women in this context, it is totally clear that they aren't being entirely serious.

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