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    Quote Originally Posted by jscrothers View Post
    I don't see these reasons explicitly spelled out in the thread.

    Not meant sardonically. I literally don't see them.

    Can you spell them out or quote them?
    Last I looked, this thread was about eugenics, not who should be allowed to vote or not. FDG and you are derailing this thread.

    If you want to have a discussion about voting rights, start a new thread. Until then, please refer back to my OP post.

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    I'm all for improving the gene pool, but I would do it through cloning. Patrick Stewart and Morgan Freeman are starting to look real old; we really should try to preserve the DNA of our greatest minds and talent.
    If bees did go extinct, we could always hire people to dress up as bees and pollinate flowers with tiny feather dusters. Sure it'd be more expensive, but there are also millions of idle teens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    FDG and you are derailing this thread.
    I'm somehow okay with that, but you should also give yourself some credit for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Mole is Australian.
    Do they have hippies in Australia?
    Of course Mole is an Australian hippie. He attended the Nimbin Aquarius Festival in Northern New South Wales.

    Mole was a hippie environmentalist and took charge of the garbage of 20,000 hippies, collecting, sorting, dividing the garbage and selling it. And the environmental garbage collection was the only part of the Aquarius Festival that made money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    Another article Nine-Year-Old Dies, Father Hides Death for Four Days about people having disabled child after disabled child has made me bang my head against a wall... Why doesn't somebody ask questions? Get involved? At least advise the couple to stop having children!

    I am a firm believer in some sort of negative eugenics. Many people seem to believe you have a "right" to procreate as much as you have a right to free speech or to own property. I disagree, because in many cases the taxpayers end up having to support women's decisions to let somebody shoot their diseased seed into them, sometimes when they are well aware of the risks. Something ceases to be a right when it harms other people in some way, whether immidiately or in the future. Liberty is not the same as licence.

    Anyway, I am interested to see what others' views are, and have also attached an extract on eugenics which explains the rationale well.

    strong adviser of eugenics here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Of course Mole is an Australian hippie. He attended the Nimbin Aquarius Festival in Northern New South Wales.

    Mole was a hippie environmentalist and took charge of the garbage of 20,000 hippies, collecting, sorting, dividing the garbage and selling it. And the environmental garbage collection was the only part of the Aquarius Festival that made money.

    Riding on top of his garbage truck Mole was cheered wherever he went. And when he stopped he was fed and looked after.

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    good on you, mole.

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    A big (if not the biggest) part of the health of a species as a whole is its diversity.

    I have yet to see any eugenics programs that aim to improve this.

    If we ever do this, I am expecting a potato famine situation, except it'll be us wiped out because we are all vulnerable to the same (unpredictable) thing instead of just our food source.

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    i just don't think government should be the deciding factor in who reproduces and is born they fucked up the dmv and post office until they fix the dmv and post office i say absolutley not. what I'm saying is they fuck up small things why do you want them having control over this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    A big (if not the biggest) part of the health of a species as a whole is its diversity.

    I have yet to see any eugenics programs that aim to improve this.

    If we ever do this, I am expecting a potato famine situation, except it'll be us wiped out because we are all vulnerable to the same (unpredictable) thing instead of just our food source.
    To focus on the genetics of eugenics is disingenuous because eugenics is not a genetic problem, it is a moral problem.

    Eugenics has been used to take us as close to absolute evil as we have come.

    And the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was encoded as a response to the evil of eugenics.

    So those who speak of eugenics in neutral terms are eitheir morally blind or morally evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Of course Mole is an Australian hippie. He attended the Nimbin Aquarius Festival in Northern New South Wales.
    I stand corrected.
    Apparently SilentMusings was fine, and Mole was the only one who was in error.
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    I believe people with hereditary conditions should be fully informed of the risks involved in having children (probability, life expectancy of affected children, medical costs and possible aid from the government), but the final decision should be theirs.
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