1. This thread is about the discussion "Have You noticed a trend that hippies being totally 'Us vs Them' and using pseudo science and all that, and claiming 'Doctors backed me up on this opinion! So it's a fact!' and yet dismiss other doctors, no matter how many, as quacks because they aren't doctors agreeing with them, etc. etc."..
I don't mind having debates about the merits of hippy medicine, since I use them and my philosophy is that things should work together because a big part of medicine and treating patients is a holistic perspective--respecting their boundaries, no matter how ridiculous they are (sorry Mormons, you're all fucked up to me medicine-wise) to you (/nakedgunmoment), and getting the patient to do something in the right direction of health, including teaching them things they might not know about.
However. The discussion is not about personal attacks. The discussion was never meant to BE a debate about modern vs natural, I indulged in it because I wasn't getting much response either way, but I'm regretting that now. So much of medicine is PHILOSOPHY and beliefs regardless of science.. So if you want to keep defending the merits of whatever side you're on, Fine, but I'll just keep reporting posts that are attacking people and their credentials. If you don't want yours attacked, don't attack theirs. Because for every person that's had a quack modern doctor there's a person who's dealt with a quack natural one.
With that said. I'm going to go back to complaining about natural medicine a little bit, regardless of if people are all frowny faced that I don't agree that treating symptoms is useless. (BTW, it isn't. Saline wash is a natural symptom relief of allergies, and I highly prefer it to allergy medicine simply for cost reasons. No, it doesn't cure my allergies, but I don't really need it to... Colds don't need to be cured, they go away in such a ridiculously short amount of time, and no medicine you post is going to cure colds and kill the virus because it doesn't exist--in natural or modern medicine. Make the body more efficient at killing it? Sure. Other than that, you're reaching for beans if you think anyone's found magic pills to kill a virus.)
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RawfoodSOS is a great writer, and I think she does a bang-up job of letting people decide for themselves, being objective, but exposing facts that neither support or offend either side and only show that, again, philosophy of the people shapes what is healthy or not just as much as science.. I mean, technically science can say all it wants "X will produce Y" but if the path isn't to people's liking they won't do it all day...
.. Hence why I feel (and modern hospital procedures now-a-days agree more and more) that natural medicine and modern medicine need to walk together.. and if something is shown to be off base, then it needs to be thrown out no matter what side it came from. And while I feel modern people that follow studies tend to do that, if I tell a hippy acai berries were sort of a quack, they get all up in arms. And they have all the vaguely written documentation to back them up on it.
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A really great infographic that leads to real sources, but I wish they'd lead to a list of sources on either side to show the weight of well established and good vs inconclusive and slight.