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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I don't know what's existential about it. But I think the idea that the answer is 'infinite' or 'indeterminate' comes from the fact that the solution to 0/0 can be proven to amount to any Real, with its limit being at infinity.
    Well, to be fair in this case, infinity technically doesn't represent a number, but a concept, as infinity is neither a variable or constant.

    What makes your question interesting is the reversal that takes place in defining that which exists and that which doesn't.

    If 0 divided by any number is undefined (represented by its inverse, 0/1), and 0 is still nothing, then 0 has value while the other numbers do not. It's an interesting thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
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    Your response disappeared into cyberspace, but I got it in my email. If you define something that doesn't exist to be something that exists, is it necessarily the case for my question that something that exists has to be defined as something that doesn't exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Well, to be fair in this case, infinity technically doesn't represent a number, but a concept, as infinity is neither a variable or constant.

    What makes your question interesting is the reversal that takes place in defining that which exists and that which doesn't.

    If 0 divided by any number is undefined (represented by its inverse, 0/1), and 0 is still nothing, then 0 has value while the other numbers do not. It's an interesting thought.
    if 0 is infinitesimal, you cannot divide something that is already infinitesimal into further smaller parts.

    so 0/n = 0 ie infinitesimall

    actually infinity symbol represents something infinitely large whereas 0 represents sonething infinitely small.

    so one is macro cosmos-infinity whereas the other is micro cosmos infinity.

    where's @infinite_ ?

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    0 is black hole.

    ~ is big bang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    What kind of math would result if 0 divided by any number is unsolvable, but any number divided by zero equals zero?
    It would perhaps represent a microcosmos or microuniverse, or perhaps the law of mathematics inside a black hole.

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    so is n/0 equal to oblivion or beyond?

    Does that then mean a mathetical reality where the rules are inverse of those our universe would be defining the reality of (or inside) oblivion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    What kind of math would result if 0 divided by any number is unsolvable, but any number divided by zero equals zero?

    I think this would in some ways reinvent set theory foundationally. By saying that something divided by zero is nothing, we state that we know that zero is no longer as it currently exists in the natural numbers.

    For division, the operation is defined after 0, and the property is such that division by zero is not allowed because result cannot be mapped to any other numbers. 0 would have to take on something aside from nothing to make its division countable. In doing so, it would violate 0 being represted by an empty set. It would have to be something to divide itself, while be nothing in its current state, which would come to a contradiction,

    Just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    What kind of math would result if 0 divided by any number is unsolvable, but any number divided by zero equals zero?
    First there is an ambiguity in that setup. If we considered 0 to be part of any number then we don't know whether it should be unsolvable or zero. However, I'll consider it to mean 0 divided by any number other than 0 is unsolvable.

    Math is the study of patterns. One example that follows this pattern is "pull up logic" (for example NMOS logic) in a circuit, when the resistor doing the pulling up is open...if we take the operation encoded by "divide" to mean "transition to", "0" being a voltage signifying a logic low, "any other number" being a logic high, and "unsolvable" being an unresolved logic level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    where's @infinite_ ?
    Lol, here, just was a bit MIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinite View Post
    Lol, here, just was a bit MIA
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