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  • 1. Open and Infinite (Saddle - Negative curvature)

    3 42.86%
  • 2. Finite and Closed (Sphere - Positive curvature)

    0 0%
  • 3. Digital and Flat (Torus - No curvature)

    2 28.57%
  • 4. Multi-directional and Eternal (Toroid - Revolving Curvature)

    2 28.57%
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    Me thought the universe was flat with some saddle shaped curvature which were gradually decreasing in scope as everything was expanding. Me thought there was another universe next to ours and the interaction whilst expanding were causing all the quantum doohickeys! I imagine it as something similar to screwing up a piece of paper, unscrewing it all, accepting the now deficient piece of paper and then placing a second crumpled and unfolded piece on top of it. Then you put them in a tray and shake the tray a little from side to side.

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    The problem is that we always think we've reached the final hurdle, only to discover later that our technology was not advanced enough, or that we were looking at it all wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Actually the latest news is that old measurements werent precise enough, so it just seemed flat and new more precise measurements suggest that it has saddle shaped curvature.
    This is simply untrue.

    And I suspect you are perpetrating this untruth, not to further knowledge of astrophysics, but to further your own ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    The problem is that we always think we've reached the final hurdle, only to discover later that our technology was not advanced enough, or that we were looking at it all wrong.
    This is a furphy perpetrated by those who don't know or understand the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    This is simply untrue.

    And I suspect you are perpetrating this untruth, not to further knowledge of astrophysics, but to further your own ego.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...urved-not-flat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    The problem is that we always think we've reached the final hurdle, only to discover later that our technology was not advanced enough, or that we were looking at it all wrong.
    Only idiots think that theories are bullet proof facts. The only fact is that we cant prove anything to be true. In order to prove anything to be 100% true, you need to prove everything to be true that is used in coming up with the theory and also prove every alternative hypothesis to be untrue, no matter how unlikely those hypothesis might sound. You cant even prove that you arent living in a matrix, so you cant prove your perceptions/measurements to be true. Sure this matrix thing might sound weird, but as unlikely at it seems, there is a possibility for that aswell. Also you cant disprove god and since you cant disprove god, you cant disprove the possibility that its just fucking with everyones heads.
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    The universe is FLAT. At least that's what's accepted right now. I remember reading about it aaaages ago in a science magazine, so it must be right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Hey @Mole, don't walk off the edge of space, or else you will be gone for all time!
    This is Earth, not the Discworld.

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    Yeah, if this turns out to be true it would be REALLY interesting, but we don't know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbriel View Post
    The universe is FLAT. At least that's what's accepted right now. I remember reading about it aaaages ago in a science magazine, so it must be right!
    Yes, there is some evidence from the background radiation that the universe may well be curved. We will of course seek to falsify the theory that the Universe is curved, but it may well prove to be true.

    We live in interesting times with satellite astronomy taking ever more accurate pictures of the background radiation.

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