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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    You're taking him too literally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Click on "My Profile" on the top of this page, then click on "Find Latest Posts".
    LOL. Now I remember why I blocked you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    No I'm disengaging from someone who starts an online conversation with A Christian by googling: "Atheism proves bible literalists wrong."
    I did not Google that. Where did you get that idea? This may come as a surprise to you, but I actually Googled "C.S. Lewis literalism" and "Biblical literalism."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    LOL. Now I remember why I blocked you...
    A very wise decision, one I'm going to follow myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Illness says that a delusion is not a delusion when it is shared by a large number of believers.
    No it doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    But still, a delusion is a delusion no matter how many believe it.

    So when is a delusion not a delusion?

    Perhaps God is a delusion you have when you are not having a delusion.

    Who knows? Certainly not the DSM V.
    Yer funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I'm sorry, but as a religious person myself I find it impossible to deny (and wouldn't want to deny it even if it were possible) that there are some very strict fundamentalists out there without much in the way of actual religious education, who are not at all open to interpreting the Bible in any way but what is actually right there on the page. My own parents believe that the King James Version was ordained by God Himself and every word of it is perfectly true. (Fortunately they also have an understanding of genre and literary device and don't require "literal" and "true" to be synonyms.) Being critical of unthinking religious people is not the same as being critical of all religious people and I think we'd do well not to take the punishment when it's not meant for us.
    Yeah, but all we know is that these people were bothered by Nye's irreverence. That's it. So I don't see why anyone would condemn them when what Nye was bringing up was so obviously stupid.

    I know there are backwards people with stupid beliefs. But, simply because someone balks at what a scientist says about the bible doesn't make them stupid or backward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Yeah, but all we know is that these people were bothered by Nye's irreverence. That's it. So I don't see why anyone would condemn them when what Nye was bringing up was so obviously stupid.

    I know there are backwards people with stupid beliefs. But, simply because someone balks at what a scientist says about the bible doesn't make them stupid or backward.
    No, of course it doesn't. It's just their beliefs that are stupid and/or backward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    No it doesn't.
    Pehaps I'm wrong. I thought the DSM IV gave an out to religion by saying that a shared delusion is not a delusion.

    And I understood the DSM IV gave an out to religion for political reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Yeah, but all we know is that these people were bothered by Nye's irreverence. That's it. So I don't see why anyone would condemn them when what Nye was bringing up was so obviously stupid.
    That's not the impression I got from the clarifications 93JC posted. Apparently the vast majority of the crowd thought what he said was fine and not irreverent, only a few people walked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Pehaps I'm wrong. I thought the DSM IV gave an out to religion by saying that a shared delusion is not a delusion.

    And I understood the DSM IV gave an out to religion for political reasons.
    If you were directly quoting the DSMs, then no.
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