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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    first off, I'd like to start by saying I find human evolution fascinating and think it is probably true, but there are some aspects of it that just do not make sense to me.
    - why are our feet so deformed and weak? why don't we have any kind of protective padding like other primates or wolves?
    they arent deformed and they are weak because our current form of footwear doesent really suit us.

    i read this funny blog post of a barefoot runner a while ago. he had been teased a lot that some day he will step on a piece of glass and get hurt. well, the blog post was about this, he found a piece of glass on his feet, it had been there for few days, he knew this because it had started to grow new skin on it before he noticed it . you say no padding?

    - why are our bodies so frail? compared to other predators like tigers, bears etc, human beings have relatively little ability to sustain major injuries.
    i dont think this is true, humans have really good ability to survive from major injuries, much better than many other animals. if all human were large as bears, we wouldnt had survived till today very well, because our strengths are in areas which require us to for example outrun deers, horses etc.(even tho they run faster, humans are capable of chasing them till they collapse, its an old form of hunting) and walk across deserts etc.

    - why are humans so weak psychologically? the average human being is so psychologically fragile it is pathetic. people are generally fearful of conflict and have a very difficult time finding psychological balance, overcoming psychological distress and staying strong in the face of conflict.
    we live in environment that is unnatural to us, this creates psychological problems to humans and other animals.

    - where are all of our instincts? sure, humans are intelligent and quick learners, but if you threw most people out into the wilderness and they had to survive, most of them would die without years of training and study of various plants and hunting techniques
    again we live in environment that suppresses our natural instincts, if you go live in a jungle for few years, you will notice those instincts coming back. ever wonder why small children doesent want to eat green vegetables? its because of evolution, it has been beneficial for small children to not eat green plants, because they may be poisonous. sex, graving for sweet and fatty foods etc etc are because of our instincts, they havent gone anywhere, its just that things like intuitively understanding our environment isnt enforced much by our environment. most genes need environment for them to be triggered, since we live in unnatural environment, we lack a lot of our instincts also, but those can be triggered by changing the environment.

    - why is killing so unnatural for us? sure, humans in the past have done it a lot, but it seems we need to be pushed to unnatural limits to do so. how would someone like an INFP or enneagram 4 survive in a world where killing to survive was a necessity?
    society says that killing is wrong. INFPs and e4's are just as capable of that as others, its just that they have structured their Fi values according to the environment they live in. im quite sure that if you would put my INFP friend in a forest alone and telling him that he needs to survive, he would just die right away. but if they had been living in some jungle tribe, im pretty sure that they would survive just fine.
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    Don't have much time to read the enitre thread but here are my thoughts.


    - why are our feet so deformed and weak? why don't we have any kind of protective padding like other primates or wolves?
    Try walking around a few miles a day on bare feet, the padding will grow on it all by itself!

    - why are our bodies so frail? compared to other predators like tigers, bears etc, human beings have relatively little ability to sustain major injuries.
    Before we were hunter-gatherers, we probably lived in trees and ate fruit. And while hunter=gatherers, we used weapons and traps. Not much risk for injury. Point is, we've never been the kind of animal that needs to throws himself in the midst of danger to get a kill. Doesn't mean we've not done that in history, but that was not as a means to survive, but as a means to conquer.

    - why are humans so weak psychologically? the average human being is so psychologically fragile it is pathetic. people are generally fearful of conflict and have a very difficult time finding psychological balance, overcoming psychological distress and staying strong in the face of conflict.
    We're not psychologically weak, we're psychologically complex. It makes us better, not worse.

    - where are all of our instincts? sure, humans are intelligent and quick learners, but if you threw most people out into the wilderness and they had to survive, most of them would die without years of training and study of various plants and hunting techniques
    We've survived through tradition for a very long time. Why use instincts if you can be taught something better?

    - why is killing so unnatural for us? sure, humans in the past have done it a lot, but it seems we need to be pushed to unnatural limits to do so. how would someone like an INFP or enneagram 4 survive in a world where killing to survive was a necessity?
    If only this was true. Apart from just needing to have a survival instinct to kill, humans can have tons of reasons to kill. In fact, plenty don't even need a reason at all!. *sniff* INFP E4 will kill too if he or she is hungry and wants to roast a rabbit.
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