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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Something just occurred to me. Considering the evolution of the elephant's immune system, how would the more archaic immune system of the woolly mammoth handle today's bacterial and viral cultures?
    Just give them the usual vaccines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Just give them the usual vaccines.
    Vaccines are lower or non-living dosages of the same virus. How do you know the woolly mammoth's immune system can handle it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Vaccines are lower or non-living dosages of the same virus. How do you know the woolly mammoth's immune system can handle it?
    Are you suggesting that t-cells from 10,000 or even 50,000 years ago are somehow different from modern ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Are you suggesting that t-cells from 10,000 or even 50,000 years ago are somehow different from modern ones?
    I honestly don't know. Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    I honestly don't know. Do you?
    Do you know how cloning an extinct species is accomplished? Think Jurassic Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Do you know how cloning an extinct species is accomplished? Think Jurassic Park.
    Can't say I understand it to the level of immune system impact whereby a movie tells me fuck all, at least as it relates to the immune system. Perhaps you can share your knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Can't say I understand it to the level of immune system impact whereby a movie tells me fuck all, at least as it relates to the immune system. Perhaps you can share your knowledge.
    A movie won't go into that kind of detail, but it does reveal the general method. In Jurassic Park a lizard or some related animal's dna was used to assist the cloning process. The key to cloning the woolly mammoth is to replace the nuclei of egg cells from an elephant.

    Bingo! You now have your modern dna and modern immune system borrowed from an elephant's dna (assuming a modern immune system is even required).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    A movie won't go into that kind of detail, but it does reveal the general method. In Jurassic Park a lizard or some related animal's dna was used to assist the cloning process. The key to cloning the woolly mammoth is to replace the nuclei of egg cells from an elephant.

    Bingo! You now have your modern dna and modern immune system borrowed from an elephant's dna (assuming a modern immune system is even required).
    Okay, this sounds like a possibility although heritability of immune system isn't guaranteed.

    So technically, if they did recreate a woolly mammoth, it would in effect be a cross-breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Okay, this sounds like a possibility although heritability of immune system isn't guaranteed.
    Yes, no guarantees.
    But, immunity would be closest to that of the elephant mother that carried the baby mammoth to term.
    Alot of immunity is opassed from mother to child via breast milk, and not just in utero.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    So technically, if they did recreate a woolly mammoth, it would in effect be a cross-breed.
    YES.

    Much like the "Florida Panther" after it was kept alive in nature via introduction of Western Mountain Lions.

    There are no more "Florida Panthers."
    There will not likely ever be a "pure" mammoth.
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